How can I use my soccer ball to hit people off-stage?












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Wii Fit Trainer's side-special, Header, spawns a soccer ball that she hits. I know you can shoot it at different angles by pressing special a second time sooner or later, but are there any other angles I can use to hit people off-stage?



For example, the soccer ball only shoots kind of downwards, what if they recover high?



How can I cover all angles?










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    Wii Fit Trainer's side-special, Header, spawns a soccer ball that she hits. I know you can shoot it at different angles by pressing special a second time sooner or later, but are there any other angles I can use to hit people off-stage?



    For example, the soccer ball only shoots kind of downwards, what if they recover high?



    How can I cover all angles?










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      Wii Fit Trainer's side-special, Header, spawns a soccer ball that she hits. I know you can shoot it at different angles by pressing special a second time sooner or later, but are there any other angles I can use to hit people off-stage?



      For example, the soccer ball only shoots kind of downwards, what if they recover high?



      How can I cover all angles?










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      Wii Fit Trainer's side-special, Header, spawns a soccer ball that she hits. I know you can shoot it at different angles by pressing special a second time sooner or later, but are there any other angles I can use to hit people off-stage?



      For example, the soccer ball only shoots kind of downwards, what if they recover high?



      How can I cover all angles?







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          If you press shield after you start side-special but before you actually hit the ball, you'll go into free fall and the ball will just bounce in front of you. You can then hit it with any move you want!



          Different moves will give you different angles and speeds, but my 5 most used angles for ledge-guarding are:



          High



          If they recover high like you mention, you can side-special toward stage and then forward-tilt back toward the ledge. This will result in hitting the ball with your back foot and sending it with a nice arc to catch anything high:



          Back-hit F-tilt Soccer Ball



          Forward



          For a fast ball straight ahead, you can do a forward-tilt in front of you:



          Front-hit F-tilt Soccer Ball



          Low #1



          This is probably my most used edge-guard. It's both simple and covers most recoveries.



          Cancel the side-special on the ledge side, and then immediately input a single jab:



          Jab Soccer Ball



          Low #2



          The issue with the other low technique is that it goes a little far from the stage. If you have someone who's recovering by hugging the stage, they'll be safe from it. At this point, I'd go off stage and look for a down-air spike, but if the opponent has a dangerous recovery for you or you prefer the stage, you can use this.



          You'll have to be pretty close to the ledge, since we'll be sending the ball straight down. Cancel side-special toward the ledge and then immediately do a short-hop down-air (this can be buffered easily by holding jump, attack and down on the control stick right after you go into free fall from cancelling the side-special):



          Down-air Soccer Ball



          Low Fancy



          This one will give you almost the same angle and speed as a simple jab, but if you're feeling a little spicy and you want to impress people, you can go for a back hit of forward air.



          Cancel side-special toward the ledge, then immediately turn around and short-hop fast-fall a forward-air:



          Forward-air Soccer Ball





          There are of course a bunch more possibilities, but these are the moves I've found to be the easiest and most useful for covering recovery options.






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          • If there are any others that you think are useful that I missed, feel free to write an answer with those techniques--I'd love to see them!

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          If you press shield after you start side-special but before you actually hit the ball, you'll go into free fall and the ball will just bounce in front of you. You can then hit it with any move you want!



          Different moves will give you different angles and speeds, but my 5 most used angles for ledge-guarding are:



          High



          If they recover high like you mention, you can side-special toward stage and then forward-tilt back toward the ledge. This will result in hitting the ball with your back foot and sending it with a nice arc to catch anything high:



          Back-hit F-tilt Soccer Ball



          Forward



          For a fast ball straight ahead, you can do a forward-tilt in front of you:



          Front-hit F-tilt Soccer Ball



          Low #1



          This is probably my most used edge-guard. It's both simple and covers most recoveries.



          Cancel the side-special on the ledge side, and then immediately input a single jab:



          Jab Soccer Ball



          Low #2



          The issue with the other low technique is that it goes a little far from the stage. If you have someone who's recovering by hugging the stage, they'll be safe from it. At this point, I'd go off stage and look for a down-air spike, but if the opponent has a dangerous recovery for you or you prefer the stage, you can use this.



          You'll have to be pretty close to the ledge, since we'll be sending the ball straight down. Cancel side-special toward the ledge and then immediately do a short-hop down-air (this can be buffered easily by holding jump, attack and down on the control stick right after you go into free fall from cancelling the side-special):



          Down-air Soccer Ball



          Low Fancy



          This one will give you almost the same angle and speed as a simple jab, but if you're feeling a little spicy and you want to impress people, you can go for a back hit of forward air.



          Cancel side-special toward the ledge, then immediately turn around and short-hop fast-fall a forward-air:



          Forward-air Soccer Ball





          There are of course a bunch more possibilities, but these are the moves I've found to be the easiest and most useful for covering recovery options.






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          • If there are any others that you think are useful that I missed, feel free to write an answer with those techniques--I'd love to see them!

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          If you press shield after you start side-special but before you actually hit the ball, you'll go into free fall and the ball will just bounce in front of you. You can then hit it with any move you want!



          Different moves will give you different angles and speeds, but my 5 most used angles for ledge-guarding are:



          High



          If they recover high like you mention, you can side-special toward stage and then forward-tilt back toward the ledge. This will result in hitting the ball with your back foot and sending it with a nice arc to catch anything high:



          Back-hit F-tilt Soccer Ball



          Forward



          For a fast ball straight ahead, you can do a forward-tilt in front of you:



          Front-hit F-tilt Soccer Ball



          Low #1



          This is probably my most used edge-guard. It's both simple and covers most recoveries.



          Cancel the side-special on the ledge side, and then immediately input a single jab:



          Jab Soccer Ball



          Low #2



          The issue with the other low technique is that it goes a little far from the stage. If you have someone who's recovering by hugging the stage, they'll be safe from it. At this point, I'd go off stage and look for a down-air spike, but if the opponent has a dangerous recovery for you or you prefer the stage, you can use this.



          You'll have to be pretty close to the ledge, since we'll be sending the ball straight down. Cancel side-special toward the ledge and then immediately do a short-hop down-air (this can be buffered easily by holding jump, attack and down on the control stick right after you go into free fall from cancelling the side-special):



          Down-air Soccer Ball



          Low Fancy



          This one will give you almost the same angle and speed as a simple jab, but if you're feeling a little spicy and you want to impress people, you can go for a back hit of forward air.



          Cancel side-special toward the ledge, then immediately turn around and short-hop fast-fall a forward-air:



          Forward-air Soccer Ball





          There are of course a bunch more possibilities, but these are the moves I've found to be the easiest and most useful for covering recovery options.






          share|improve this answer


























          • If there are any others that you think are useful that I missed, feel free to write an answer with those techniques--I'd love to see them!

            – scohe001
            47 mins ago














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          If you press shield after you start side-special but before you actually hit the ball, you'll go into free fall and the ball will just bounce in front of you. You can then hit it with any move you want!



          Different moves will give you different angles and speeds, but my 5 most used angles for ledge-guarding are:



          High



          If they recover high like you mention, you can side-special toward stage and then forward-tilt back toward the ledge. This will result in hitting the ball with your back foot and sending it with a nice arc to catch anything high:



          Back-hit F-tilt Soccer Ball



          Forward



          For a fast ball straight ahead, you can do a forward-tilt in front of you:



          Front-hit F-tilt Soccer Ball



          Low #1



          This is probably my most used edge-guard. It's both simple and covers most recoveries.



          Cancel the side-special on the ledge side, and then immediately input a single jab:



          Jab Soccer Ball



          Low #2



          The issue with the other low technique is that it goes a little far from the stage. If you have someone who's recovering by hugging the stage, they'll be safe from it. At this point, I'd go off stage and look for a down-air spike, but if the opponent has a dangerous recovery for you or you prefer the stage, you can use this.



          You'll have to be pretty close to the ledge, since we'll be sending the ball straight down. Cancel side-special toward the ledge and then immediately do a short-hop down-air (this can be buffered easily by holding jump, attack and down on the control stick right after you go into free fall from cancelling the side-special):



          Down-air Soccer Ball



          Low Fancy



          This one will give you almost the same angle and speed as a simple jab, but if you're feeling a little spicy and you want to impress people, you can go for a back hit of forward air.



          Cancel side-special toward the ledge, then immediately turn around and short-hop fast-fall a forward-air:



          Forward-air Soccer Ball





          There are of course a bunch more possibilities, but these are the moves I've found to be the easiest and most useful for covering recovery options.






          share|improve this answer















          If you press shield after you start side-special but before you actually hit the ball, you'll go into free fall and the ball will just bounce in front of you. You can then hit it with any move you want!



          Different moves will give you different angles and speeds, but my 5 most used angles for ledge-guarding are:



          High



          If they recover high like you mention, you can side-special toward stage and then forward-tilt back toward the ledge. This will result in hitting the ball with your back foot and sending it with a nice arc to catch anything high:



          Back-hit F-tilt Soccer Ball



          Forward



          For a fast ball straight ahead, you can do a forward-tilt in front of you:



          Front-hit F-tilt Soccer Ball



          Low #1



          This is probably my most used edge-guard. It's both simple and covers most recoveries.



          Cancel the side-special on the ledge side, and then immediately input a single jab:



          Jab Soccer Ball



          Low #2



          The issue with the other low technique is that it goes a little far from the stage. If you have someone who's recovering by hugging the stage, they'll be safe from it. At this point, I'd go off stage and look for a down-air spike, but if the opponent has a dangerous recovery for you or you prefer the stage, you can use this.



          You'll have to be pretty close to the ledge, since we'll be sending the ball straight down. Cancel side-special toward the ledge and then immediately do a short-hop down-air (this can be buffered easily by holding jump, attack and down on the control stick right after you go into free fall from cancelling the side-special):



          Down-air Soccer Ball



          Low Fancy



          This one will give you almost the same angle and speed as a simple jab, but if you're feeling a little spicy and you want to impress people, you can go for a back hit of forward air.



          Cancel side-special toward the ledge, then immediately turn around and short-hop fast-fall a forward-air:



          Forward-air Soccer Ball





          There are of course a bunch more possibilities, but these are the moves I've found to be the easiest and most useful for covering recovery options.







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          • If there are any others that you think are useful that I missed, feel free to write an answer with those techniques--I'd love to see them!

            – scohe001
            47 mins ago



















          • If there are any others that you think are useful that I missed, feel free to write an answer with those techniques--I'd love to see them!

            – scohe001
            47 mins ago

















          If there are any others that you think are useful that I missed, feel free to write an answer with those techniques--I'd love to see them!

          – scohe001
          47 mins ago





          If there are any others that you think are useful that I missed, feel free to write an answer with those techniques--I'd love to see them!

          – scohe001
          47 mins ago


















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