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We have a linear operator $T:Vrightarrow V $. V is a finite-dimension inner product space over the field of the complex numbers. Show $T^2=Id$ implies $T=T^*$.



I've tried working with the inner product, trying to get $(Tx,x)=(x,Tx)$ with no luck. Maybe it has something to do with a basis for T (and thus diagonalizability?)






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  • Suppose $T^2=I$ and $T=T^*$; then $TT^*=I$, so $T$ is unitary and Hermitian. Can you find a nonsymmetric real $2times2$ matrix having trace $0$ and determinant $-1$? Easy one: $begin{bmatrix}0&2\1/2&0end{bmatrix}$; less easy: $begin{bmatrix}2&-3\1&-2end{bmatrix}$.
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  • Suppose $T^2=I$ and $T=T^*$; then $TT^*=I$, so $T$ is unitary and Hermitian. Can you find a nonsymmetric real $2times2$ matrix having trace $0$ and determinant $-1$? Easy one: $begin{bmatrix}0&2\1/2&0end{bmatrix}$; less easy: $begin{bmatrix}2&-3\1&-2end{bmatrix}$.
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We have a linear operator $T:Vrightarrow V $. V is a finite-dimension inner product space over the field of the complex numbers. Show $T^2=Id$ implies $T=T^*$.



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  • Suppose $T^2=I$ and $T=T^*$; then $TT^*=I$, so $T$ is unitary and Hermitian. Can you find a nonsymmetric real $2times2$ matrix having trace $0$ and determinant $-1$? Easy one: $begin{bmatrix}0&2\1/2&0end{bmatrix}$; less easy: $begin{bmatrix}2&-3\1&-2end{bmatrix}$.
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  • Suppose $T^2=I$ and $T=T^*$; then $TT^*=I$, so $T$ is unitary and Hermitian. Can you find a nonsymmetric real $2times2$ matrix having trace $0$ and determinant $-1$? Easy one: $begin{bmatrix}0&2\1/2&0end{bmatrix}$; less easy: $begin{bmatrix}2&-3\1&-2end{bmatrix}$.
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Suppose $T^2=I$ and $T=T^*$; then $TT^*=I$, so $T$ is unitary and Hermitian. Can you find a nonsymmetric real $2times2$ matrix having trace $0$ and determinant $-1$? Easy one: $begin{bmatrix}0&2\1/2&0end{bmatrix}$; less easy: $begin{bmatrix}2&-3\1&-2end{bmatrix}$.
– egreg
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Suppose $T^2=I$ and $T=T^*$; then $TT^*=I$, so $T$ is unitary and Hermitian. Can you find a nonsymmetric real $2times2$ matrix having trace $0$ and determinant $-1$? Easy one: $begin{bmatrix}0&2\1/2&0end{bmatrix}$; less easy: $begin{bmatrix}2&-3\1&-2end{bmatrix}$.
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You can't prove it, since it is not true. Take$$begin{array}{rccc}Tcolon&mathbb{R}^2&longrightarrow&mathbb{R}\&(x,y)&mapsto&left(2y,frac x2right).end{array}$$Then $T^2=operatorname{Id}$, but $T^*(x,y)=left(frac y2,2xright)$.






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    $(Tx, y)=(Tx, T^2 y)=(T x, T (Ty))=(x,T y)$



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      I will build a basis on which $T$ is diagonal.



      Given a non-zero vector $u$, consider $v=Tu$. We then have $Tu=v$. Let the first two vectors in our basis be $u+v,u-v$. These are eigenvectors of $T$ with eigenvalues $pm1$ (if either of those two vectors is $0$, then don't include that in the basis).



      Repeat the process by picking a $w$ not in the span of $u,v$, look at $Tw$, add $wpm Tw$ to the basis, and so on.



      We get a basis of eigenvectors with real eigenvalues, meaning $T$ is diagonalizable.






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        You can't prove it, since it is not true. Take$$begin{array}{rccc}Tcolon&mathbb{R}^2&longrightarrow&mathbb{R}\&(x,y)&mapsto&left(2y,frac x2right).end{array}$$Then $T^2=operatorname{Id}$, but $T^*(x,y)=left(frac y2,2xright)$.






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          You can't prove it, since it is not true. Take$$begin{array}{rccc}Tcolon&mathbb{R}^2&longrightarrow&mathbb{R}\&(x,y)&mapsto&left(2y,frac x2right).end{array}$$Then $T^2=operatorname{Id}$, but $T^*(x,y)=left(frac y2,2xright)$.






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            You can't prove it, since it is not true. Take$$begin{array}{rccc}Tcolon&mathbb{R}^2&longrightarrow&mathbb{R}\&(x,y)&mapsto&left(2y,frac x2right).end{array}$$Then $T^2=operatorname{Id}$, but $T^*(x,y)=left(frac y2,2xright)$.






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            You can't prove it, since it is not true. Take$$begin{array}{rccc}Tcolon&mathbb{R}^2&longrightarrow&mathbb{R}\&(x,y)&mapsto&left(2y,frac x2right).end{array}$$Then $T^2=operatorname{Id}$, but $T^*(x,y)=left(frac y2,2xright)$.







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                $(Tx, y)=(Tx, T^2 y)=(T x, T (Ty))=(x,T y)$



                if $T$ is an isometric operator






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                  $(Tx, y)=(Tx, T^2 y)=(T x, T (Ty))=(x,T y)$



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                    $(Tx, y)=(Tx, T^2 y)=(T x, T (Ty))=(x,T y)$



                    if $T$ is an isometric operator






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                    $(Tx, y)=(Tx, T^2 y)=(T x, T (Ty))=(x,T y)$



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                        I will build a basis on which $T$ is diagonal.



                        Given a non-zero vector $u$, consider $v=Tu$. We then have $Tu=v$. Let the first two vectors in our basis be $u+v,u-v$. These are eigenvectors of $T$ with eigenvalues $pm1$ (if either of those two vectors is $0$, then don't include that in the basis).



                        Repeat the process by picking a $w$ not in the span of $u,v$, look at $Tw$, add $wpm Tw$ to the basis, and so on.



                        We get a basis of eigenvectors with real eigenvalues, meaning $T$ is diagonalizable.






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                          I will build a basis on which $T$ is diagonal.



                          Given a non-zero vector $u$, consider $v=Tu$. We then have $Tu=v$. Let the first two vectors in our basis be $u+v,u-v$. These are eigenvectors of $T$ with eigenvalues $pm1$ (if either of those two vectors is $0$, then don't include that in the basis).



                          Repeat the process by picking a $w$ not in the span of $u,v$, look at $Tw$, add $wpm Tw$ to the basis, and so on.



                          We get a basis of eigenvectors with real eigenvalues, meaning $T$ is diagonalizable.






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                            I will build a basis on which $T$ is diagonal.



                            Given a non-zero vector $u$, consider $v=Tu$. We then have $Tu=v$. Let the first two vectors in our basis be $u+v,u-v$. These are eigenvectors of $T$ with eigenvalues $pm1$ (if either of those two vectors is $0$, then don't include that in the basis).



                            Repeat the process by picking a $w$ not in the span of $u,v$, look at $Tw$, add $wpm Tw$ to the basis, and so on.



                            We get a basis of eigenvectors with real eigenvalues, meaning $T$ is diagonalizable.






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                            I will build a basis on which $T$ is diagonal.



                            Given a non-zero vector $u$, consider $v=Tu$. We then have $Tu=v$. Let the first two vectors in our basis be $u+v,u-v$. These are eigenvectors of $T$ with eigenvalues $pm1$ (if either of those two vectors is $0$, then don't include that in the basis).



                            Repeat the process by picking a $w$ not in the span of $u,v$, look at $Tw$, add $wpm Tw$ to the basis, and so on.



                            We get a basis of eigenvectors with real eigenvalues, meaning $T$ is diagonalizable.







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