How is thrust transmitted from strap on boosters to the central core?
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Strap on boosters of a lot of heavy launch vehicles seems to be attached with just a few "flimsy" struts.
Here are few images for reference :
Some of the possibilities:
- These support structures from the strap-ons are extremely strong and well designed to transfer the thrust.
There are other hidden support structures to bear/transfer the thrust to the central core.
Somewhat a mix of the above two possibilities or something other than the listed.
SO, how do the thrust actually get transmitted to the central core?
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Strap on boosters of a lot of heavy launch vehicles seems to be attached with just a few "flimsy" struts.
Here are few images for reference :
Some of the possibilities:
- These support structures from the strap-ons are extremely strong and well designed to transfer the thrust.
There are other hidden support structures to bear/transfer the thrust to the central core.
Somewhat a mix of the above two possibilities or something other than the listed.
SO, how do the thrust actually get transmitted to the central core?
design falcon-heavy launch-vehicle thrust booster
2
Related: Are any strap-on boosters held in place by actual straps?
– Russell Borogove
11 hours ago
@RussellBorogove in your answer linked, the case is Soyuz which has the strap on in flush with the core. But the case I'm looking at specifically are the FH, Delta, etc where there is just 2 thin rods that connect on the top and bottom.
– karthikeyan
11 hours ago
Something worth noting, the struts on top would also be being pushed into the core because of the torque action of the side boosters (depending on any vectoring).
– tl8
5 hours ago
1
slightly related, w/ photos of struts: Shear forces between Shuttle, tank, and boosters - what pushes what?
– uhoh
5 hours ago
Remember that the strap on has to lift itself first before transmitting force to the core stage. So not all the thrust is directly imparted to the struts.
– Antzi
1 hour ago
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up vote
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Strap on boosters of a lot of heavy launch vehicles seems to be attached with just a few "flimsy" struts.
Here are few images for reference :
Some of the possibilities:
- These support structures from the strap-ons are extremely strong and well designed to transfer the thrust.
There are other hidden support structures to bear/transfer the thrust to the central core.
Somewhat a mix of the above two possibilities or something other than the listed.
SO, how do the thrust actually get transmitted to the central core?
design falcon-heavy launch-vehicle thrust booster
Strap on boosters of a lot of heavy launch vehicles seems to be attached with just a few "flimsy" struts.
Here are few images for reference :
Some of the possibilities:
- These support structures from the strap-ons are extremely strong and well designed to transfer the thrust.
There are other hidden support structures to bear/transfer the thrust to the central core.
Somewhat a mix of the above two possibilities or something other than the listed.
SO, how do the thrust actually get transmitted to the central core?
design falcon-heavy launch-vehicle thrust booster
design falcon-heavy launch-vehicle thrust booster
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Related: Are any strap-on boosters held in place by actual straps?
– Russell Borogove
11 hours ago
@RussellBorogove in your answer linked, the case is Soyuz which has the strap on in flush with the core. But the case I'm looking at specifically are the FH, Delta, etc where there is just 2 thin rods that connect on the top and bottom.
– karthikeyan
11 hours ago
Something worth noting, the struts on top would also be being pushed into the core because of the torque action of the side boosters (depending on any vectoring).
– tl8
5 hours ago
1
slightly related, w/ photos of struts: Shear forces between Shuttle, tank, and boosters - what pushes what?
– uhoh
5 hours ago
Remember that the strap on has to lift itself first before transmitting force to the core stage. So not all the thrust is directly imparted to the struts.
– Antzi
1 hour ago
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Related: Are any strap-on boosters held in place by actual straps?
– Russell Borogove
11 hours ago
@RussellBorogove in your answer linked, the case is Soyuz which has the strap on in flush with the core. But the case I'm looking at specifically are the FH, Delta, etc where there is just 2 thin rods that connect on the top and bottom.
– karthikeyan
11 hours ago
Something worth noting, the struts on top would also be being pushed into the core because of the torque action of the side boosters (depending on any vectoring).
– tl8
5 hours ago
1
slightly related, w/ photos of struts: Shear forces between Shuttle, tank, and boosters - what pushes what?
– uhoh
5 hours ago
Remember that the strap on has to lift itself first before transmitting force to the core stage. So not all the thrust is directly imparted to the struts.
– Antzi
1 hour ago
2
2
Related: Are any strap-on boosters held in place by actual straps?
– Russell Borogove
11 hours ago
Related: Are any strap-on boosters held in place by actual straps?
– Russell Borogove
11 hours ago
@RussellBorogove in your answer linked, the case is Soyuz which has the strap on in flush with the core. But the case I'm looking at specifically are the FH, Delta, etc where there is just 2 thin rods that connect on the top and bottom.
– karthikeyan
11 hours ago
@RussellBorogove in your answer linked, the case is Soyuz which has the strap on in flush with the core. But the case I'm looking at specifically are the FH, Delta, etc where there is just 2 thin rods that connect on the top and bottom.
– karthikeyan
11 hours ago
Something worth noting, the struts on top would also be being pushed into the core because of the torque action of the side boosters (depending on any vectoring).
– tl8
5 hours ago
Something worth noting, the struts on top would also be being pushed into the core because of the torque action of the side boosters (depending on any vectoring).
– tl8
5 hours ago
1
1
slightly related, w/ photos of struts: Shear forces between Shuttle, tank, and boosters - what pushes what?
– uhoh
5 hours ago
slightly related, w/ photos of struts: Shear forces between Shuttle, tank, and boosters - what pushes what?
– uhoh
5 hours ago
Remember that the strap on has to lift itself first before transmitting force to the core stage. So not all the thrust is directly imparted to the struts.
– Antzi
1 hour ago
Remember that the strap on has to lift itself first before transmitting force to the core stage. So not all the thrust is directly imparted to the struts.
– Antzi
1 hour ago
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It’s a sense of scale issue. As much as the struts might look like flimsy bits of drainpipe, those rockets are around 15 meters wide, and the struts are more like the heavy steel beams used to hold up entire buildings.
So yes, they’re just really strong.
1
Falcon Heavy core diameter is 3.66m; from the picture I estimate the upper struts are about 24cm or 9" in height. Delta Heavy core is 5.1m; the picture is too fuzzy for me to accurately estimate the size of the struts.
– Russell Borogove
8 hours ago
Using a similar approach I got 36cm (14”) for each of the two lower attachment points on the Delta Heavy. But yeah, it’s tricky finding something much more accurate than “way bigger than they look”.
– Quentin Clarkson
6 hours ago
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For Delta IV Heavy, according to Spaceflight101:
The CBCs functioning as boosters are attached to the central core using thrust struts that interface with the interstage section of the launcher to transfer loads from the boosters to the rest of the vehicle. Additional attachment points reside in the base of the vehicle right above the engine heat shields.
The "thrust struts" described are the thin horizontal pieces near the top of the boosters. The "additional attachment points" are at the bottom of the cylindrical portion of the cores, just above the tapered boat-tail heat shields around the engines. This diagram gives a slightly better view of the latter:
All the force differential between the boosters and center core goes through those attachment points.
For Falcon Heavy, the setup is similar:
The boosters are attached to the central core stage via structural interfaces in the aft section and interfaces that connect the upper portion of the boosters to the interstage area of the Falcon Heavy via thrust struts to transfer loads to the vehicle. Separation of the boosters is accomplished using collets in the structural interfaces, avoiding the use of pyrotechnics since SpaceX prefers to use systems that can be tested and re-used. The reaction control system of the boosters ensures a clean separation from the core stage.
The base connection points appear to be singular, rather than dual as on the D4H:
The struts are pretty substantial; from the first picture in the question, I estimate the height of the upper struts to be about 24cm.
For Soyuz, the force seems to all be transmitted to sockets near the top of the core stage which are engaged by the nose of the boosters; I believe the straps at the base hold the boosters in position without transmitting significant load.
1
Does anyone know how much thrust is transferred through the top (resp. bottom) attachments in each case?
– Steve Linton
10 hours ago
I am really surprised at how such tiny pieces can transfer such huge loads.. I am also curious to know the share of load as pointed out by steve. @russell are there any references/calc/explanation as to why the load on top strut of a strap on will be the largest?
– karthikeyan
10 hours ago
2
@karthikeyan remember that a significant portion of a side booster's thrust is used to accelerate its own mass
– Jack
10 hours ago
1
No idea how the load is distributed. Jack's point is good, although in both the D4H and Falcon Heavy case, the center core is throttled down to ~55% while the side boosters are burning, and the center stick supports the mass of the upper stage and payload.
– Russell Borogove
10 hours ago
@Jack I was thinking along the same lines, but wouldn't the argument lead to a point questioning the added advantage of boosters?! I have not worked out the math, but qualitatively discussing!
– karthikeyan
10 hours ago
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It’s a sense of scale issue. As much as the struts might look like flimsy bits of drainpipe, those rockets are around 15 meters wide, and the struts are more like the heavy steel beams used to hold up entire buildings.
So yes, they’re just really strong.
1
Falcon Heavy core diameter is 3.66m; from the picture I estimate the upper struts are about 24cm or 9" in height. Delta Heavy core is 5.1m; the picture is too fuzzy for me to accurately estimate the size of the struts.
– Russell Borogove
8 hours ago
Using a similar approach I got 36cm (14”) for each of the two lower attachment points on the Delta Heavy. But yeah, it’s tricky finding something much more accurate than “way bigger than they look”.
– Quentin Clarkson
6 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
12
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It’s a sense of scale issue. As much as the struts might look like flimsy bits of drainpipe, those rockets are around 15 meters wide, and the struts are more like the heavy steel beams used to hold up entire buildings.
So yes, they’re just really strong.
1
Falcon Heavy core diameter is 3.66m; from the picture I estimate the upper struts are about 24cm or 9" in height. Delta Heavy core is 5.1m; the picture is too fuzzy for me to accurately estimate the size of the struts.
– Russell Borogove
8 hours ago
Using a similar approach I got 36cm (14”) for each of the two lower attachment points on the Delta Heavy. But yeah, it’s tricky finding something much more accurate than “way bigger than they look”.
– Quentin Clarkson
6 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
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up vote
12
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It’s a sense of scale issue. As much as the struts might look like flimsy bits of drainpipe, those rockets are around 15 meters wide, and the struts are more like the heavy steel beams used to hold up entire buildings.
So yes, they’re just really strong.
It’s a sense of scale issue. As much as the struts might look like flimsy bits of drainpipe, those rockets are around 15 meters wide, and the struts are more like the heavy steel beams used to hold up entire buildings.
So yes, they’re just really strong.
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Falcon Heavy core diameter is 3.66m; from the picture I estimate the upper struts are about 24cm or 9" in height. Delta Heavy core is 5.1m; the picture is too fuzzy for me to accurately estimate the size of the struts.
– Russell Borogove
8 hours ago
Using a similar approach I got 36cm (14”) for each of the two lower attachment points on the Delta Heavy. But yeah, it’s tricky finding something much more accurate than “way bigger than they look”.
– Quentin Clarkson
6 hours ago
add a comment |
1
Falcon Heavy core diameter is 3.66m; from the picture I estimate the upper struts are about 24cm or 9" in height. Delta Heavy core is 5.1m; the picture is too fuzzy for me to accurately estimate the size of the struts.
– Russell Borogove
8 hours ago
Using a similar approach I got 36cm (14”) for each of the two lower attachment points on the Delta Heavy. But yeah, it’s tricky finding something much more accurate than “way bigger than they look”.
– Quentin Clarkson
6 hours ago
1
1
Falcon Heavy core diameter is 3.66m; from the picture I estimate the upper struts are about 24cm or 9" in height. Delta Heavy core is 5.1m; the picture is too fuzzy for me to accurately estimate the size of the struts.
– Russell Borogove
8 hours ago
Falcon Heavy core diameter is 3.66m; from the picture I estimate the upper struts are about 24cm or 9" in height. Delta Heavy core is 5.1m; the picture is too fuzzy for me to accurately estimate the size of the struts.
– Russell Borogove
8 hours ago
Using a similar approach I got 36cm (14”) for each of the two lower attachment points on the Delta Heavy. But yeah, it’s tricky finding something much more accurate than “way bigger than they look”.
– Quentin Clarkson
6 hours ago
Using a similar approach I got 36cm (14”) for each of the two lower attachment points on the Delta Heavy. But yeah, it’s tricky finding something much more accurate than “way bigger than they look”.
– Quentin Clarkson
6 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
8
down vote
For Delta IV Heavy, according to Spaceflight101:
The CBCs functioning as boosters are attached to the central core using thrust struts that interface with the interstage section of the launcher to transfer loads from the boosters to the rest of the vehicle. Additional attachment points reside in the base of the vehicle right above the engine heat shields.
The "thrust struts" described are the thin horizontal pieces near the top of the boosters. The "additional attachment points" are at the bottom of the cylindrical portion of the cores, just above the tapered boat-tail heat shields around the engines. This diagram gives a slightly better view of the latter:
All the force differential between the boosters and center core goes through those attachment points.
For Falcon Heavy, the setup is similar:
The boosters are attached to the central core stage via structural interfaces in the aft section and interfaces that connect the upper portion of the boosters to the interstage area of the Falcon Heavy via thrust struts to transfer loads to the vehicle. Separation of the boosters is accomplished using collets in the structural interfaces, avoiding the use of pyrotechnics since SpaceX prefers to use systems that can be tested and re-used. The reaction control system of the boosters ensures a clean separation from the core stage.
The base connection points appear to be singular, rather than dual as on the D4H:
The struts are pretty substantial; from the first picture in the question, I estimate the height of the upper struts to be about 24cm.
For Soyuz, the force seems to all be transmitted to sockets near the top of the core stage which are engaged by the nose of the boosters; I believe the straps at the base hold the boosters in position without transmitting significant load.
1
Does anyone know how much thrust is transferred through the top (resp. bottom) attachments in each case?
– Steve Linton
10 hours ago
I am really surprised at how such tiny pieces can transfer such huge loads.. I am also curious to know the share of load as pointed out by steve. @russell are there any references/calc/explanation as to why the load on top strut of a strap on will be the largest?
– karthikeyan
10 hours ago
2
@karthikeyan remember that a significant portion of a side booster's thrust is used to accelerate its own mass
– Jack
10 hours ago
1
No idea how the load is distributed. Jack's point is good, although in both the D4H and Falcon Heavy case, the center core is throttled down to ~55% while the side boosters are burning, and the center stick supports the mass of the upper stage and payload.
– Russell Borogove
10 hours ago
@Jack I was thinking along the same lines, but wouldn't the argument lead to a point questioning the added advantage of boosters?! I have not worked out the math, but qualitatively discussing!
– karthikeyan
10 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
up vote
8
down vote
For Delta IV Heavy, according to Spaceflight101:
The CBCs functioning as boosters are attached to the central core using thrust struts that interface with the interstage section of the launcher to transfer loads from the boosters to the rest of the vehicle. Additional attachment points reside in the base of the vehicle right above the engine heat shields.
The "thrust struts" described are the thin horizontal pieces near the top of the boosters. The "additional attachment points" are at the bottom of the cylindrical portion of the cores, just above the tapered boat-tail heat shields around the engines. This diagram gives a slightly better view of the latter:
All the force differential between the boosters and center core goes through those attachment points.
For Falcon Heavy, the setup is similar:
The boosters are attached to the central core stage via structural interfaces in the aft section and interfaces that connect the upper portion of the boosters to the interstage area of the Falcon Heavy via thrust struts to transfer loads to the vehicle. Separation of the boosters is accomplished using collets in the structural interfaces, avoiding the use of pyrotechnics since SpaceX prefers to use systems that can be tested and re-used. The reaction control system of the boosters ensures a clean separation from the core stage.
The base connection points appear to be singular, rather than dual as on the D4H:
The struts are pretty substantial; from the first picture in the question, I estimate the height of the upper struts to be about 24cm.
For Soyuz, the force seems to all be transmitted to sockets near the top of the core stage which are engaged by the nose of the boosters; I believe the straps at the base hold the boosters in position without transmitting significant load.
1
Does anyone know how much thrust is transferred through the top (resp. bottom) attachments in each case?
– Steve Linton
10 hours ago
I am really surprised at how such tiny pieces can transfer such huge loads.. I am also curious to know the share of load as pointed out by steve. @russell are there any references/calc/explanation as to why the load on top strut of a strap on will be the largest?
– karthikeyan
10 hours ago
2
@karthikeyan remember that a significant portion of a side booster's thrust is used to accelerate its own mass
– Jack
10 hours ago
1
No idea how the load is distributed. Jack's point is good, although in both the D4H and Falcon Heavy case, the center core is throttled down to ~55% while the side boosters are burning, and the center stick supports the mass of the upper stage and payload.
– Russell Borogove
10 hours ago
@Jack I was thinking along the same lines, but wouldn't the argument lead to a point questioning the added advantage of boosters?! I have not worked out the math, but qualitatively discussing!
– karthikeyan
10 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
up vote
8
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up vote
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For Delta IV Heavy, according to Spaceflight101:
The CBCs functioning as boosters are attached to the central core using thrust struts that interface with the interstage section of the launcher to transfer loads from the boosters to the rest of the vehicle. Additional attachment points reside in the base of the vehicle right above the engine heat shields.
The "thrust struts" described are the thin horizontal pieces near the top of the boosters. The "additional attachment points" are at the bottom of the cylindrical portion of the cores, just above the tapered boat-tail heat shields around the engines. This diagram gives a slightly better view of the latter:
All the force differential between the boosters and center core goes through those attachment points.
For Falcon Heavy, the setup is similar:
The boosters are attached to the central core stage via structural interfaces in the aft section and interfaces that connect the upper portion of the boosters to the interstage area of the Falcon Heavy via thrust struts to transfer loads to the vehicle. Separation of the boosters is accomplished using collets in the structural interfaces, avoiding the use of pyrotechnics since SpaceX prefers to use systems that can be tested and re-used. The reaction control system of the boosters ensures a clean separation from the core stage.
The base connection points appear to be singular, rather than dual as on the D4H:
The struts are pretty substantial; from the first picture in the question, I estimate the height of the upper struts to be about 24cm.
For Soyuz, the force seems to all be transmitted to sockets near the top of the core stage which are engaged by the nose of the boosters; I believe the straps at the base hold the boosters in position without transmitting significant load.
For Delta IV Heavy, according to Spaceflight101:
The CBCs functioning as boosters are attached to the central core using thrust struts that interface with the interstage section of the launcher to transfer loads from the boosters to the rest of the vehicle. Additional attachment points reside in the base of the vehicle right above the engine heat shields.
The "thrust struts" described are the thin horizontal pieces near the top of the boosters. The "additional attachment points" are at the bottom of the cylindrical portion of the cores, just above the tapered boat-tail heat shields around the engines. This diagram gives a slightly better view of the latter:
All the force differential between the boosters and center core goes through those attachment points.
For Falcon Heavy, the setup is similar:
The boosters are attached to the central core stage via structural interfaces in the aft section and interfaces that connect the upper portion of the boosters to the interstage area of the Falcon Heavy via thrust struts to transfer loads to the vehicle. Separation of the boosters is accomplished using collets in the structural interfaces, avoiding the use of pyrotechnics since SpaceX prefers to use systems that can be tested and re-used. The reaction control system of the boosters ensures a clean separation from the core stage.
The base connection points appear to be singular, rather than dual as on the D4H:
The struts are pretty substantial; from the first picture in the question, I estimate the height of the upper struts to be about 24cm.
For Soyuz, the force seems to all be transmitted to sockets near the top of the core stage which are engaged by the nose of the boosters; I believe the straps at the base hold the boosters in position without transmitting significant load.
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Does anyone know how much thrust is transferred through the top (resp. bottom) attachments in each case?
– Steve Linton
10 hours ago
I am really surprised at how such tiny pieces can transfer such huge loads.. I am also curious to know the share of load as pointed out by steve. @russell are there any references/calc/explanation as to why the load on top strut of a strap on will be the largest?
– karthikeyan
10 hours ago
2
@karthikeyan remember that a significant portion of a side booster's thrust is used to accelerate its own mass
– Jack
10 hours ago
1
No idea how the load is distributed. Jack's point is good, although in both the D4H and Falcon Heavy case, the center core is throttled down to ~55% while the side boosters are burning, and the center stick supports the mass of the upper stage and payload.
– Russell Borogove
10 hours ago
@Jack I was thinking along the same lines, but wouldn't the argument lead to a point questioning the added advantage of boosters?! I have not worked out the math, but qualitatively discussing!
– karthikeyan
10 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
1
Does anyone know how much thrust is transferred through the top (resp. bottom) attachments in each case?
– Steve Linton
10 hours ago
I am really surprised at how such tiny pieces can transfer such huge loads.. I am also curious to know the share of load as pointed out by steve. @russell are there any references/calc/explanation as to why the load on top strut of a strap on will be the largest?
– karthikeyan
10 hours ago
2
@karthikeyan remember that a significant portion of a side booster's thrust is used to accelerate its own mass
– Jack
10 hours ago
1
No idea how the load is distributed. Jack's point is good, although in both the D4H and Falcon Heavy case, the center core is throttled down to ~55% while the side boosters are burning, and the center stick supports the mass of the upper stage and payload.
– Russell Borogove
10 hours ago
@Jack I was thinking along the same lines, but wouldn't the argument lead to a point questioning the added advantage of boosters?! I have not worked out the math, but qualitatively discussing!
– karthikeyan
10 hours ago
1
1
Does anyone know how much thrust is transferred through the top (resp. bottom) attachments in each case?
– Steve Linton
10 hours ago
Does anyone know how much thrust is transferred through the top (resp. bottom) attachments in each case?
– Steve Linton
10 hours ago
I am really surprised at how such tiny pieces can transfer such huge loads.. I am also curious to know the share of load as pointed out by steve. @russell are there any references/calc/explanation as to why the load on top strut of a strap on will be the largest?
– karthikeyan
10 hours ago
I am really surprised at how such tiny pieces can transfer such huge loads.. I am also curious to know the share of load as pointed out by steve. @russell are there any references/calc/explanation as to why the load on top strut of a strap on will be the largest?
– karthikeyan
10 hours ago
2
2
@karthikeyan remember that a significant portion of a side booster's thrust is used to accelerate its own mass
– Jack
10 hours ago
@karthikeyan remember that a significant portion of a side booster's thrust is used to accelerate its own mass
– Jack
10 hours ago
1
1
No idea how the load is distributed. Jack's point is good, although in both the D4H and Falcon Heavy case, the center core is throttled down to ~55% while the side boosters are burning, and the center stick supports the mass of the upper stage and payload.
– Russell Borogove
10 hours ago
No idea how the load is distributed. Jack's point is good, although in both the D4H and Falcon Heavy case, the center core is throttled down to ~55% while the side boosters are burning, and the center stick supports the mass of the upper stage and payload.
– Russell Borogove
10 hours ago
@Jack I was thinking along the same lines, but wouldn't the argument lead to a point questioning the added advantage of boosters?! I have not worked out the math, but qualitatively discussing!
– karthikeyan
10 hours ago
@Jack I was thinking along the same lines, but wouldn't the argument lead to a point questioning the added advantage of boosters?! I have not worked out the math, but qualitatively discussing!
– karthikeyan
10 hours ago
|
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Related: Are any strap-on boosters held in place by actual straps?
– Russell Borogove
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@RussellBorogove in your answer linked, the case is Soyuz which has the strap on in flush with the core. But the case I'm looking at specifically are the FH, Delta, etc where there is just 2 thin rods that connect on the top and bottom.
– karthikeyan
11 hours ago
Something worth noting, the struts on top would also be being pushed into the core because of the torque action of the side boosters (depending on any vectoring).
– tl8
5 hours ago
1
slightly related, w/ photos of struts: Shear forces between Shuttle, tank, and boosters - what pushes what?
– uhoh
5 hours ago
Remember that the strap on has to lift itself first before transmitting force to the core stage. So not all the thrust is directly imparted to the struts.
– Antzi
1 hour ago