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As far as I understand it, it is (at least, that is how Wikipedia defines it). But I've found this statement by Efron* (emphasis added):




Markov chain Monte Carlo (MCMC) is the great success story of modern-day Bayesian statistics. MCMC, and its sister method “Gibbs sampling,” permit the numerical calculation of posterior distributions in situations far too complicated for analytic expression.




and now I'm confused. Is this just a minor difference in terminology, or is Gibbs sampling something other than MCMC?



[*]: Efron 2011, "The Bootstrap and Markov-Chain Monte Carlo"










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    As far as I understand it, it is (at least, that is how Wikipedia defines it). But I've found this statement by Efron* (emphasis added):




    Markov chain Monte Carlo (MCMC) is the great success story of modern-day Bayesian statistics. MCMC, and its sister method “Gibbs sampling,” permit the numerical calculation of posterior distributions in situations far too complicated for analytic expression.




    and now I'm confused. Is this just a minor difference in terminology, or is Gibbs sampling something other than MCMC?



    [*]: Efron 2011, "The Bootstrap and Markov-Chain Monte Carlo"










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      As far as I understand it, it is (at least, that is how Wikipedia defines it). But I've found this statement by Efron* (emphasis added):




      Markov chain Monte Carlo (MCMC) is the great success story of modern-day Bayesian statistics. MCMC, and its sister method “Gibbs sampling,” permit the numerical calculation of posterior distributions in situations far too complicated for analytic expression.




      and now I'm confused. Is this just a minor difference in terminology, or is Gibbs sampling something other than MCMC?



      [*]: Efron 2011, "The Bootstrap and Markov-Chain Monte Carlo"










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      As far as I understand it, it is (at least, that is how Wikipedia defines it). But I've found this statement by Efron* (emphasis added):




      Markov chain Monte Carlo (MCMC) is the great success story of modern-day Bayesian statistics. MCMC, and its sister method “Gibbs sampling,” permit the numerical calculation of posterior distributions in situations far too complicated for analytic expression.




      and now I'm confused. Is this just a minor difference in terminology, or is Gibbs sampling something other than MCMC?



      [*]: Efron 2011, "The Bootstrap and Markov-Chain Monte Carlo"







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          The algorithm that is now called Gibbs sampling forms a Markov-chain and uses Monte-Carlo simulation for its inputs, so it does indeed fall within the proper scope of MCMC (Markov-Chain Monte-Carlo) methods. Historically, the method can be traced back at least to the mid-twentieth century, but it was not well-known and was only later popularised by the seminal paper of Geman and Geman (1984) which examined statistical physics in relation to the use of the Gibbs distribution (for some historical references, see Casella and George 1992, p. 167).



          For some reason, thoughout his paper, Efron refers to the Gibbs sampler as if it were outside the scope of MCMC. He does this in the quote you have given, and also in some other parts of the paper. Since his opening reference to the technique refers to the "Gibbs sampler" (given in quotes) it is possible that he is alluding to the historical fact that the original method was developed through the Gibbs distribution in statistical physics, and was not incorporated into the general statistical theory of MCMC until much later. This is my best guess as to why he refers to it this way.



          Given that Bradley Efron is still alive and kicking, it might be worth emailing him and just asking him why he refers to the Gibbs sampler this way. Efron is a really brilliant statistician, so I'm sure he has some good reason for referring to the Gibbs sampler this way, and it would be great to know the reasoning.



          Update: I have taken the liberty of emailing Bradley Efron to ask him about this. I will update this answer if I receive a response.






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          • Thank you! I'll wait to see if you get an answer from Dr Efron, if not I'll still select this as the answer.
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          Go with Wikipedia. Better yet, go with these MCMC researchers:





          • Tierney (1994), "Markov Chains for Exploring Posterior Distributions";


          • Geyer (2011), "Introduction to Markov Chain Mote Carlo";


          • Robert and Casella (2011), "A Short History of Markov Chain Monte Carlo".


          The Gibbs sampler is an example of a Markov chain Monte Carlo algorithm. Indeed, it is a special case of the Metropolis-Hastings algorithm. Any algorithm that generates random draws from a distribution $pi(theta)$ by simulating a Markov chain that has $pi(theta)$ as its stationary distribution is a Markov chain Monte Carlo algorithm, and that's exactly what the Gibbs sampler does.






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            The algorithm that is now called Gibbs sampling forms a Markov-chain and uses Monte-Carlo simulation for its inputs, so it does indeed fall within the proper scope of MCMC (Markov-Chain Monte-Carlo) methods. Historically, the method can be traced back at least to the mid-twentieth century, but it was not well-known and was only later popularised by the seminal paper of Geman and Geman (1984) which examined statistical physics in relation to the use of the Gibbs distribution (for some historical references, see Casella and George 1992, p. 167).



            For some reason, thoughout his paper, Efron refers to the Gibbs sampler as if it were outside the scope of MCMC. He does this in the quote you have given, and also in some other parts of the paper. Since his opening reference to the technique refers to the "Gibbs sampler" (given in quotes) it is possible that he is alluding to the historical fact that the original method was developed through the Gibbs distribution in statistical physics, and was not incorporated into the general statistical theory of MCMC until much later. This is my best guess as to why he refers to it this way.



            Given that Bradley Efron is still alive and kicking, it might be worth emailing him and just asking him why he refers to the Gibbs sampler this way. Efron is a really brilliant statistician, so I'm sure he has some good reason for referring to the Gibbs sampler this way, and it would be great to know the reasoning.



            Update: I have taken the liberty of emailing Bradley Efron to ask him about this. I will update this answer if I receive a response.






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            • Thank you! I'll wait to see if you get an answer from Dr Efron, if not I'll still select this as the answer.
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            The algorithm that is now called Gibbs sampling forms a Markov-chain and uses Monte-Carlo simulation for its inputs, so it does indeed fall within the proper scope of MCMC (Markov-Chain Monte-Carlo) methods. Historically, the method can be traced back at least to the mid-twentieth century, but it was not well-known and was only later popularised by the seminal paper of Geman and Geman (1984) which examined statistical physics in relation to the use of the Gibbs distribution (for some historical references, see Casella and George 1992, p. 167).



            For some reason, thoughout his paper, Efron refers to the Gibbs sampler as if it were outside the scope of MCMC. He does this in the quote you have given, and also in some other parts of the paper. Since his opening reference to the technique refers to the "Gibbs sampler" (given in quotes) it is possible that he is alluding to the historical fact that the original method was developed through the Gibbs distribution in statistical physics, and was not incorporated into the general statistical theory of MCMC until much later. This is my best guess as to why he refers to it this way.



            Given that Bradley Efron is still alive and kicking, it might be worth emailing him and just asking him why he refers to the Gibbs sampler this way. Efron is a really brilliant statistician, so I'm sure he has some good reason for referring to the Gibbs sampler this way, and it would be great to know the reasoning.



            Update: I have taken the liberty of emailing Bradley Efron to ask him about this. I will update this answer if I receive a response.






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            • Thank you! I'll wait to see if you get an answer from Dr Efron, if not I'll still select this as the answer.
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            The algorithm that is now called Gibbs sampling forms a Markov-chain and uses Monte-Carlo simulation for its inputs, so it does indeed fall within the proper scope of MCMC (Markov-Chain Monte-Carlo) methods. Historically, the method can be traced back at least to the mid-twentieth century, but it was not well-known and was only later popularised by the seminal paper of Geman and Geman (1984) which examined statistical physics in relation to the use of the Gibbs distribution (for some historical references, see Casella and George 1992, p. 167).



            For some reason, thoughout his paper, Efron refers to the Gibbs sampler as if it were outside the scope of MCMC. He does this in the quote you have given, and also in some other parts of the paper. Since his opening reference to the technique refers to the "Gibbs sampler" (given in quotes) it is possible that he is alluding to the historical fact that the original method was developed through the Gibbs distribution in statistical physics, and was not incorporated into the general statistical theory of MCMC until much later. This is my best guess as to why he refers to it this way.



            Given that Bradley Efron is still alive and kicking, it might be worth emailing him and just asking him why he refers to the Gibbs sampler this way. Efron is a really brilliant statistician, so I'm sure he has some good reason for referring to the Gibbs sampler this way, and it would be great to know the reasoning.



            Update: I have taken the liberty of emailing Bradley Efron to ask him about this. I will update this answer if I receive a response.






            share|cite|improve this answer














            The algorithm that is now called Gibbs sampling forms a Markov-chain and uses Monte-Carlo simulation for its inputs, so it does indeed fall within the proper scope of MCMC (Markov-Chain Monte-Carlo) methods. Historically, the method can be traced back at least to the mid-twentieth century, but it was not well-known and was only later popularised by the seminal paper of Geman and Geman (1984) which examined statistical physics in relation to the use of the Gibbs distribution (for some historical references, see Casella and George 1992, p. 167).



            For some reason, thoughout his paper, Efron refers to the Gibbs sampler as if it were outside the scope of MCMC. He does this in the quote you have given, and also in some other parts of the paper. Since his opening reference to the technique refers to the "Gibbs sampler" (given in quotes) it is possible that he is alluding to the historical fact that the original method was developed through the Gibbs distribution in statistical physics, and was not incorporated into the general statistical theory of MCMC until much later. This is my best guess as to why he refers to it this way.



            Given that Bradley Efron is still alive and kicking, it might be worth emailing him and just asking him why he refers to the Gibbs sampler this way. Efron is a really brilliant statistician, so I'm sure he has some good reason for referring to the Gibbs sampler this way, and it would be great to know the reasoning.



            Update: I have taken the liberty of emailing Bradley Efron to ask him about this. I will update this answer if I receive a response.







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            • Thank you! I'll wait to see if you get an answer from Dr Efron, if not I'll still select this as the answer.
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            • Thank you! I'll wait to see if you get an answer from Dr Efron, if not I'll still select this as the answer.
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            Thank you! I'll wait to see if you get an answer from Dr Efron, if not I'll still select this as the answer.
            – Gabriel
            28 mins ago




            Thank you! I'll wait to see if you get an answer from Dr Efron, if not I'll still select this as the answer.
            – Gabriel
            28 mins ago












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            Go with Wikipedia. Better yet, go with these MCMC researchers:





            • Tierney (1994), "Markov Chains for Exploring Posterior Distributions";


            • Geyer (2011), "Introduction to Markov Chain Mote Carlo";


            • Robert and Casella (2011), "A Short History of Markov Chain Monte Carlo".


            The Gibbs sampler is an example of a Markov chain Monte Carlo algorithm. Indeed, it is a special case of the Metropolis-Hastings algorithm. Any algorithm that generates random draws from a distribution $pi(theta)$ by simulating a Markov chain that has $pi(theta)$ as its stationary distribution is a Markov chain Monte Carlo algorithm, and that's exactly what the Gibbs sampler does.






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              Go with Wikipedia. Better yet, go with these MCMC researchers:





              • Tierney (1994), "Markov Chains for Exploring Posterior Distributions";


              • Geyer (2011), "Introduction to Markov Chain Mote Carlo";


              • Robert and Casella (2011), "A Short History of Markov Chain Monte Carlo".


              The Gibbs sampler is an example of a Markov chain Monte Carlo algorithm. Indeed, it is a special case of the Metropolis-Hastings algorithm. Any algorithm that generates random draws from a distribution $pi(theta)$ by simulating a Markov chain that has $pi(theta)$ as its stationary distribution is a Markov chain Monte Carlo algorithm, and that's exactly what the Gibbs sampler does.






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                Go with Wikipedia. Better yet, go with these MCMC researchers:





                • Tierney (1994), "Markov Chains for Exploring Posterior Distributions";


                • Geyer (2011), "Introduction to Markov Chain Mote Carlo";


                • Robert and Casella (2011), "A Short History of Markov Chain Monte Carlo".


                The Gibbs sampler is an example of a Markov chain Monte Carlo algorithm. Indeed, it is a special case of the Metropolis-Hastings algorithm. Any algorithm that generates random draws from a distribution $pi(theta)$ by simulating a Markov chain that has $pi(theta)$ as its stationary distribution is a Markov chain Monte Carlo algorithm, and that's exactly what the Gibbs sampler does.






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                Go with Wikipedia. Better yet, go with these MCMC researchers:





                • Tierney (1994), "Markov Chains for Exploring Posterior Distributions";


                • Geyer (2011), "Introduction to Markov Chain Mote Carlo";


                • Robert and Casella (2011), "A Short History of Markov Chain Monte Carlo".


                The Gibbs sampler is an example of a Markov chain Monte Carlo algorithm. Indeed, it is a special case of the Metropolis-Hastings algorithm. Any algorithm that generates random draws from a distribution $pi(theta)$ by simulating a Markov chain that has $pi(theta)$ as its stationary distribution is a Markov chain Monte Carlo algorithm, and that's exactly what the Gibbs sampler does.







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