Should I bond pipes to ground in detached building subpanel?
In California.
My subpanel has a dedicated ground conductor run to it (ground and neutral bonded only at the main panel). The subpanel is in a building with its own plumbing, not connected to pipes where the main panel is located.
I know that I should not bond ground to neutral redundantly in the subpanel, but should I bond ground to plumbing independently from the subpanel?
My concern is that this will create an alternate path to ground.
electrical grounding-and-bonding
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In California.
My subpanel has a dedicated ground conductor run to it (ground and neutral bonded only at the main panel). The subpanel is in a building with its own plumbing, not connected to pipes where the main panel is located.
I know that I should not bond ground to neutral redundantly in the subpanel, but should I bond ground to plumbing independently from the subpanel?
My concern is that this will create an alternate path to ground.
electrical grounding-and-bonding
asked 3 hours ago
MatthewMatthew
5,037143661
add a comment |
In California.
My subpanel has a dedicated ground conductor run to it (ground and neutral bonded only at the main panel). The subpanel is in a building with its own plumbing, not connected to pipes where the main panel is located.
I know that I should not bond ground to neutral redundantly in the subpanel, but should I bond ground to plumbing independently from the subpanel?
My concern is that this will create an alternate path to ground.
electrical grounding-and-bonding
asked 3 hours ago
MatthewMatthew
5,037143661
In California.
My subpanel has a dedicated ground conductor run to it (ground and neutral bonded only at the main panel). The subpanel is in a building with its own plumbing, not connected to pipes where the main panel is located.
I know that I should not bond ground to neutral redundantly in the subpanel, but should I bond ground to plumbing independently from the subpanel?
My concern is that this will create an alternate path to ground.
electrical grounding-and-bonding
electrical grounding-and-bonding
asked 3 hours ago
MatthewMatthew
5,037143661
asked 3 hours ago
MatthewMatthew
5,037143661
asked 3 hours ago
MatthewMatthew
5,037143661
asked 3 hours ago
MatthewMatthew
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asked 3 hours ago
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You need to bond the subpanel ground bus to the plumbing
You will need to run a bonding conductor from the subpanel ground bus to a grounding clamp on the plumbing, as per NEC 250.104(A)(3):
(3) Multiple Buildings or Structures Supplied by a Feeder(s) or
Branch Circuit(s). The metal water piping system(s) installed
in or attached to a building or structure shall be bonded to any
of the following:
(1) Building or structure disconnecting means enclosure
where located at the building or structure
(2) Equipment grounding conductor run with the supply
conductors
(3) One or more grounding electrodes used
The bonding jumper(s) shall be sized in accordance with
Table 250.102(C)(1), based on the size of the feeder or branch-circuit conductors that supply the building or structure. The
bonding jumper shall not be required to be larger than the
largest ungrounded feeder or branch-circuit conductor supplying the building or structure.
This ensures that if the plumbing somehow became energized, the breaker would trip and disconnect the fault, instead of leaving the plumbing floating off to shocking voltages.
Don't worry about parallel paths here
As long as you have one and only one neutral-ground bond, located at the main service entrance, you are safe from parallel-path problems. Since ground wires don't normally carry current, they are free to run in parallel with each other, metal plumbing systems, metallic structural elements, and so on.
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You need to bond the subpanel ground bus to the plumbing
You will need to run a bonding conductor from the subpanel ground bus to a grounding clamp on the plumbing, as per NEC 250.104(A)(3):
(3) Multiple Buildings or Structures Supplied by a Feeder(s) or
Branch Circuit(s). The metal water piping system(s) installed
in or attached to a building or structure shall be bonded to any
of the following:
(1) Building or structure disconnecting means enclosure
where located at the building or structure
(2) Equipment grounding conductor run with the supply
conductors
(3) One or more grounding electrodes used
The bonding jumper(s) shall be sized in accordance with
Table 250.102(C)(1), based on the size of the feeder or branch-circuit conductors that supply the building or structure. The
bonding jumper shall not be required to be larger than the
largest ungrounded feeder or branch-circuit conductor supplying the building or structure.
This ensures that if the plumbing somehow became energized, the breaker would trip and disconnect the fault, instead of leaving the plumbing floating off to shocking voltages.
Don't worry about parallel paths here
As long as you have one and only one neutral-ground bond, located at the main service entrance, you are safe from parallel-path problems. Since ground wires don't normally carry current, they are free to run in parallel with each other, metal plumbing systems, metallic structural elements, and so on.
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You need to bond the subpanel ground bus to the plumbing
You will need to run a bonding conductor from the subpanel ground bus to a grounding clamp on the plumbing, as per NEC 250.104(A)(3):
(3) Multiple Buildings or Structures Supplied by a Feeder(s) or
Branch Circuit(s). The metal water piping system(s) installed
in or attached to a building or structure shall be bonded to any
of the following:
(1) Building or structure disconnecting means enclosure
where located at the building or structure
(2) Equipment grounding conductor run with the supply
conductors
(3) One or more grounding electrodes used
The bonding jumper(s) shall be sized in accordance with
Table 250.102(C)(1), based on the size of the feeder or branch-circuit conductors that supply the building or structure. The
bonding jumper shall not be required to be larger than the
largest ungrounded feeder or branch-circuit conductor supplying the building or structure.
This ensures that if the plumbing somehow became energized, the breaker would trip and disconnect the fault, instead of leaving the plumbing floating off to shocking voltages.
Don't worry about parallel paths here
As long as you have one and only one neutral-ground bond, located at the main service entrance, you are safe from parallel-path problems. Since ground wires don't normally carry current, they are free to run in parallel with each other, metal plumbing systems, metallic structural elements, and so on.
answered 3 hours ago
ThreePhaseEelThreePhaseEel
30.7k114891
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You need to bond the subpanel ground bus to the plumbing
You will need to run a bonding conductor from the subpanel ground bus to a grounding clamp on the plumbing, as per NEC 250.104(A)(3):
(3) Multiple Buildings or Structures Supplied by a Feeder(s) or
Branch Circuit(s). The metal water piping system(s) installed
in or attached to a building or structure shall be bonded to any
of the following:
(1) Building or structure disconnecting means enclosure
where located at the building or structure
(2) Equipment grounding conductor run with the supply
conductors
(3) One or more grounding electrodes used
The bonding jumper(s) shall be sized in accordance with
Table 250.102(C)(1), based on the size of the feeder or branch-circuit conductors that supply the building or structure. The
bonding jumper shall not be required to be larger than the
largest ungrounded feeder or branch-circuit conductor supplying the building or structure.
This ensures that if the plumbing somehow became energized, the breaker would trip and disconnect the fault, instead of leaving the plumbing floating off to shocking voltages.
Don't worry about parallel paths here
As long as you have one and only one neutral-ground bond, located at the main service entrance, you are safe from parallel-path problems. Since ground wires don't normally carry current, they are free to run in parallel with each other, metal plumbing systems, metallic structural elements, and so on.
answered 3 hours ago
ThreePhaseEelThreePhaseEel
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You need to bond the subpanel ground bus to the plumbing
You will need to run a bonding conductor from the subpanel ground bus to a grounding clamp on the plumbing, as per NEC 250.104(A)(3):
(3) Multiple Buildings or Structures Supplied by a Feeder(s) or
Branch Circuit(s). The metal water piping system(s) installed
in or attached to a building or structure shall be bonded to any
of the following:
(1) Building or structure disconnecting means enclosure
where located at the building or structure
(2) Equipment grounding conductor run with the supply
conductors
(3) One or more grounding electrodes used
The bonding jumper(s) shall be sized in accordance with
Table 250.102(C)(1), based on the size of the feeder or branch-circuit conductors that supply the building or structure. The
bonding jumper shall not be required to be larger than the
largest ungrounded feeder or branch-circuit conductor supplying the building or structure.
This ensures that if the plumbing somehow became energized, the breaker would trip and disconnect the fault, instead of leaving the plumbing floating off to shocking voltages.
Don't worry about parallel paths here
As long as you have one and only one neutral-ground bond, located at the main service entrance, you are safe from parallel-path problems. Since ground wires don't normally carry current, they are free to run in parallel with each other, metal plumbing systems, metallic structural elements, and so on.
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