Multiple return values of floor in dotimes












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The floor Hyperspec article on dotimes has this example:



(defun palindromep (string &optional
(start 0)
(end (length string)))
(dotimes (k (floor (- end start) 2) t)
(unless (char-equal (char string (+ start k))
(char string (- end k 1)))
(return nil))))


If floor returns two values, e.g. (floor 5 2) -> 2 and 1, how does dotimes know to just use the first value and disregard the second for its count-form?










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    The floor Hyperspec article on dotimes has this example:



    (defun palindromep (string &optional
    (start 0)
    (end (length string)))
    (dotimes (k (floor (- end start) 2) t)
    (unless (char-equal (char string (+ start k))
    (char string (- end k 1)))
    (return nil))))


    If floor returns two values, e.g. (floor 5 2) -> 2 and 1, how does dotimes know to just use the first value and disregard the second for its count-form?










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      The floor Hyperspec article on dotimes has this example:



      (defun palindromep (string &optional
      (start 0)
      (end (length string)))
      (dotimes (k (floor (- end start) 2) t)
      (unless (char-equal (char string (+ start k))
      (char string (- end k 1)))
      (return nil))))


      If floor returns two values, e.g. (floor 5 2) -> 2 and 1, how does dotimes know to just use the first value and disregard the second for its count-form?










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      The floor Hyperspec article on dotimes has this example:



      (defun palindromep (string &optional
      (start 0)
      (end (length string)))
      (dotimes (k (floor (- end start) 2) t)
      (unless (char-equal (char string (+ start k))
      (char string (- end k 1)))
      (return nil))))


      If floor returns two values, e.g. (floor 5 2) -> 2 and 1, how does dotimes know to just use the first value and disregard the second for its count-form?







      common-lisp floor multiple-value






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          From 7.10.1,




          Normally multiple values are not used. Special forms are required both to produce multiple values and to receive them. If the caller of a function does not request multiple values, but the called function produces multiple values, then the first value is given to the caller and all others are discarded; if the called function produces zero values, then the caller gets nil as a value.




          Unless you specifically do something to deal with the multiple values (such as by multiple-value-call or one of the various macros equipped to handle them), all except the first value will be ignored.






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            It's a general mechanism and not specific to dotimes.



            If one calls a function or sets a variable, then only the first value will be passed:



            CL-USER 52 > (defun foo (x) x)
            FOO

            CL-USER 53 > (foo (floor 5 2))
            2

            CL-USER 54 > (let ((foo (floor 5 2)))
            foo)
            2


            To do the equivalent (calling functions, binding variables) with multiple values, one needs to use special constructs:



            CL-USER 55 > (multiple-value-call #'list
            (floor 5 2) (floor 7 3))
            (2 1 2 1)

            CL-USER 56 > (multiple-value-bind (foo0 foo1)
            (floor 5 2)
            (list foo0 foo1))
            (2 1)





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            • Is this an example of functional's basic lambda calculus need/tendency to curry?

              – 147pm
              Nov 22 '18 at 21:11











            • @147pm: no, that's unrelated

              – Rainer Joswig
              Nov 22 '18 at 21:16











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            From 7.10.1,




            Normally multiple values are not used. Special forms are required both to produce multiple values and to receive them. If the caller of a function does not request multiple values, but the called function produces multiple values, then the first value is given to the caller and all others are discarded; if the called function produces zero values, then the caller gets nil as a value.




            Unless you specifically do something to deal with the multiple values (such as by multiple-value-call or one of the various macros equipped to handle them), all except the first value will be ignored.






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              From 7.10.1,




              Normally multiple values are not used. Special forms are required both to produce multiple values and to receive them. If the caller of a function does not request multiple values, but the called function produces multiple values, then the first value is given to the caller and all others are discarded; if the called function produces zero values, then the caller gets nil as a value.




              Unless you specifically do something to deal with the multiple values (such as by multiple-value-call or one of the various macros equipped to handle them), all except the first value will be ignored.






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                From 7.10.1,




                Normally multiple values are not used. Special forms are required both to produce multiple values and to receive them. If the caller of a function does not request multiple values, but the called function produces multiple values, then the first value is given to the caller and all others are discarded; if the called function produces zero values, then the caller gets nil as a value.




                Unless you specifically do something to deal with the multiple values (such as by multiple-value-call or one of the various macros equipped to handle them), all except the first value will be ignored.






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                From 7.10.1,




                Normally multiple values are not used. Special forms are required both to produce multiple values and to receive them. If the caller of a function does not request multiple values, but the called function produces multiple values, then the first value is given to the caller and all others are discarded; if the called function produces zero values, then the caller gets nil as a value.




                Unless you specifically do something to deal with the multiple values (such as by multiple-value-call or one of the various macros equipped to handle them), all except the first value will be ignored.







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                    It's a general mechanism and not specific to dotimes.



                    If one calls a function or sets a variable, then only the first value will be passed:



                    CL-USER 52 > (defun foo (x) x)
                    FOO

                    CL-USER 53 > (foo (floor 5 2))
                    2

                    CL-USER 54 > (let ((foo (floor 5 2)))
                    foo)
                    2


                    To do the equivalent (calling functions, binding variables) with multiple values, one needs to use special constructs:



                    CL-USER 55 > (multiple-value-call #'list
                    (floor 5 2) (floor 7 3))
                    (2 1 2 1)

                    CL-USER 56 > (multiple-value-bind (foo0 foo1)
                    (floor 5 2)
                    (list foo0 foo1))
                    (2 1)





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                    • Is this an example of functional's basic lambda calculus need/tendency to curry?

                      – 147pm
                      Nov 22 '18 at 21:11











                    • @147pm: no, that's unrelated

                      – Rainer Joswig
                      Nov 22 '18 at 21:16
















                    7














                    It's a general mechanism and not specific to dotimes.



                    If one calls a function or sets a variable, then only the first value will be passed:



                    CL-USER 52 > (defun foo (x) x)
                    FOO

                    CL-USER 53 > (foo (floor 5 2))
                    2

                    CL-USER 54 > (let ((foo (floor 5 2)))
                    foo)
                    2


                    To do the equivalent (calling functions, binding variables) with multiple values, one needs to use special constructs:



                    CL-USER 55 > (multiple-value-call #'list
                    (floor 5 2) (floor 7 3))
                    (2 1 2 1)

                    CL-USER 56 > (multiple-value-bind (foo0 foo1)
                    (floor 5 2)
                    (list foo0 foo1))
                    (2 1)





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                    • Is this an example of functional's basic lambda calculus need/tendency to curry?

                      – 147pm
                      Nov 22 '18 at 21:11











                    • @147pm: no, that's unrelated

                      – Rainer Joswig
                      Nov 22 '18 at 21:16














                    7












                    7








                    7







                    It's a general mechanism and not specific to dotimes.



                    If one calls a function or sets a variable, then only the first value will be passed:



                    CL-USER 52 > (defun foo (x) x)
                    FOO

                    CL-USER 53 > (foo (floor 5 2))
                    2

                    CL-USER 54 > (let ((foo (floor 5 2)))
                    foo)
                    2


                    To do the equivalent (calling functions, binding variables) with multiple values, one needs to use special constructs:



                    CL-USER 55 > (multiple-value-call #'list
                    (floor 5 2) (floor 7 3))
                    (2 1 2 1)

                    CL-USER 56 > (multiple-value-bind (foo0 foo1)
                    (floor 5 2)
                    (list foo0 foo1))
                    (2 1)





                    share|improve this answer















                    It's a general mechanism and not specific to dotimes.



                    If one calls a function or sets a variable, then only the first value will be passed:



                    CL-USER 52 > (defun foo (x) x)
                    FOO

                    CL-USER 53 > (foo (floor 5 2))
                    2

                    CL-USER 54 > (let ((foo (floor 5 2)))
                    foo)
                    2


                    To do the equivalent (calling functions, binding variables) with multiple values, one needs to use special constructs:



                    CL-USER 55 > (multiple-value-call #'list
                    (floor 5 2) (floor 7 3))
                    (2 1 2 1)

                    CL-USER 56 > (multiple-value-bind (foo0 foo1)
                    (floor 5 2)
                    (list foo0 foo1))
                    (2 1)






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                    • Is this an example of functional's basic lambda calculus need/tendency to curry?

                      – 147pm
                      Nov 22 '18 at 21:11











                    • @147pm: no, that's unrelated

                      – Rainer Joswig
                      Nov 22 '18 at 21:16



















                    • Is this an example of functional's basic lambda calculus need/tendency to curry?

                      – 147pm
                      Nov 22 '18 at 21:11











                    • @147pm: no, that's unrelated

                      – Rainer Joswig
                      Nov 22 '18 at 21:16

















                    Is this an example of functional's basic lambda calculus need/tendency to curry?

                    – 147pm
                    Nov 22 '18 at 21:11





                    Is this an example of functional's basic lambda calculus need/tendency to curry?

                    – 147pm
                    Nov 22 '18 at 21:11













                    @147pm: no, that's unrelated

                    – Rainer Joswig
                    Nov 22 '18 at 21:16





                    @147pm: no, that's unrelated

                    – Rainer Joswig
                    Nov 22 '18 at 21:16


















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