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I am rebuilding a NiMH battery pack for a RF remote control device which can be recharged by plugging the device in.



The battery pack is connected with three wires:




  • black to the negative

  • red to the positive

  • BLUE through a mysterious discrete component to the negative


battery pack



The component in line with the blue wire looks a bit like a glass-body diode but my multimeter cannot measure a diode voltage. (It measures infinity, not zero, if this helps.)



However, I can measure about 11.5 kOhm across the component in both directions.



Can anybody enlighten me, what this component is likely to be? I would like to verify that the component is still functional because it is unclear whether or not the device still charges properly.










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    I am rebuilding a NiMH battery pack for a RF remote control device which can be recharged by plugging the device in.



    The battery pack is connected with three wires:




    • black to the negative

    • red to the positive

    • BLUE through a mysterious discrete component to the negative


    battery pack



    The component in line with the blue wire looks a bit like a glass-body diode but my multimeter cannot measure a diode voltage. (It measures infinity, not zero, if this helps.)



    However, I can measure about 11.5 kOhm across the component in both directions.



    Can anybody enlighten me, what this component is likely to be? I would like to verify that the component is still functional because it is unclear whether or not the device still charges properly.










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      I am rebuilding a NiMH battery pack for a RF remote control device which can be recharged by plugging the device in.



      The battery pack is connected with three wires:




      • black to the negative

      • red to the positive

      • BLUE through a mysterious discrete component to the negative


      battery pack



      The component in line with the blue wire looks a bit like a glass-body diode but my multimeter cannot measure a diode voltage. (It measures infinity, not zero, if this helps.)



      However, I can measure about 11.5 kOhm across the component in both directions.



      Can anybody enlighten me, what this component is likely to be? I would like to verify that the component is still functional because it is unclear whether or not the device still charges properly.










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      I am rebuilding a NiMH battery pack for a RF remote control device which can be recharged by plugging the device in.



      The battery pack is connected with three wires:




      • black to the negative

      • red to the positive

      • BLUE through a mysterious discrete component to the negative


      battery pack



      The component in line with the blue wire looks a bit like a glass-body diode but my multimeter cannot measure a diode voltage. (It measures infinity, not zero, if this helps.)



      However, I can measure about 11.5 kOhm across the component in both directions.



      Can anybody enlighten me, what this component is likely to be? I would like to verify that the component is still functional because it is unclear whether or not the device still charges properly.







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          Its a thermistor like this (photo from internet, not spam related):



          Photo from internet



          This kind of resistor depends on the temperature of both batteries.



          EDIT: In this photo, is a Negative Temperature Coefficient. There are also Positive Temperature Coefficient resistors. The main difference between them is how the resistor decreases or increases when the temperature grows, respectively.



          That's a cheap component and a cheaper way to determine when both batteries are charged up.



          When a NiMH is almost charged, its temperature starts to grow. If you measure the temperature based on a voltage divider into a DAC, you can measure the temperature and, therefore, activate the charge or deactivate it.



          EDIT: The thermistor must be very close to the batteries to read a correct value, so that's why this discrete component is located close to the batteries.



          The temperature based graph to read when stop charging the battery is like this:



          Photo from internet



          Related: Voltage input for charging NiMH Batteries



          If you can measure the temperature, you can check when it's charged up.






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            +1 your answer is much better than mine.
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          It is a thermistor. This senses the battery temperature, so the charger can know when something goes wrong.



          Measuring it likely won't tell you if the battery pack is still working correctly, though.






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          • Of course, that makes perfect sense. I should have thought of that. Easy to verify and not very likely to break. - Many thanks!
            – ARF
            9 hours ago











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          Its a thermistor like this (photo from internet, not spam related):



          Photo from internet



          This kind of resistor depends on the temperature of both batteries.



          EDIT: In this photo, is a Negative Temperature Coefficient. There are also Positive Temperature Coefficient resistors. The main difference between them is how the resistor decreases or increases when the temperature grows, respectively.



          That's a cheap component and a cheaper way to determine when both batteries are charged up.



          When a NiMH is almost charged, its temperature starts to grow. If you measure the temperature based on a voltage divider into a DAC, you can measure the temperature and, therefore, activate the charge or deactivate it.



          EDIT: The thermistor must be very close to the batteries to read a correct value, so that's why this discrete component is located close to the batteries.



          The temperature based graph to read when stop charging the battery is like this:



          Photo from internet



          Related: Voltage input for charging NiMH Batteries



          If you can measure the temperature, you can check when it's charged up.






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            +1 your answer is much better than mine.
            – dim
            9 hours ago















          up vote
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          Its a thermistor like this (photo from internet, not spam related):



          Photo from internet



          This kind of resistor depends on the temperature of both batteries.



          EDIT: In this photo, is a Negative Temperature Coefficient. There are also Positive Temperature Coefficient resistors. The main difference between them is how the resistor decreases or increases when the temperature grows, respectively.



          That's a cheap component and a cheaper way to determine when both batteries are charged up.



          When a NiMH is almost charged, its temperature starts to grow. If you measure the temperature based on a voltage divider into a DAC, you can measure the temperature and, therefore, activate the charge or deactivate it.



          EDIT: The thermistor must be very close to the batteries to read a correct value, so that's why this discrete component is located close to the batteries.



          The temperature based graph to read when stop charging the battery is like this:



          Photo from internet



          Related: Voltage input for charging NiMH Batteries



          If you can measure the temperature, you can check when it's charged up.






          share|improve this answer



















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            +1 your answer is much better than mine.
            – dim
            9 hours ago













          up vote
          18
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          up vote
          18
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          Its a thermistor like this (photo from internet, not spam related):



          Photo from internet



          This kind of resistor depends on the temperature of both batteries.



          EDIT: In this photo, is a Negative Temperature Coefficient. There are also Positive Temperature Coefficient resistors. The main difference between them is how the resistor decreases or increases when the temperature grows, respectively.



          That's a cheap component and a cheaper way to determine when both batteries are charged up.



          When a NiMH is almost charged, its temperature starts to grow. If you measure the temperature based on a voltage divider into a DAC, you can measure the temperature and, therefore, activate the charge or deactivate it.



          EDIT: The thermistor must be very close to the batteries to read a correct value, so that's why this discrete component is located close to the batteries.



          The temperature based graph to read when stop charging the battery is like this:



          Photo from internet



          Related: Voltage input for charging NiMH Batteries



          If you can measure the temperature, you can check when it's charged up.






          share|improve this answer














          Its a thermistor like this (photo from internet, not spam related):



          Photo from internet



          This kind of resistor depends on the temperature of both batteries.



          EDIT: In this photo, is a Negative Temperature Coefficient. There are also Positive Temperature Coefficient resistors. The main difference between them is how the resistor decreases or increases when the temperature grows, respectively.



          That's a cheap component and a cheaper way to determine when both batteries are charged up.



          When a NiMH is almost charged, its temperature starts to grow. If you measure the temperature based on a voltage divider into a DAC, you can measure the temperature and, therefore, activate the charge or deactivate it.



          EDIT: The thermistor must be very close to the batteries to read a correct value, so that's why this discrete component is located close to the batteries.



          The temperature based graph to read when stop charging the battery is like this:



          Photo from internet



          Related: Voltage input for charging NiMH Batteries



          If you can measure the temperature, you can check when it's charged up.







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            +1 your answer is much better than mine.
            – dim
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            +1 your answer is much better than mine.
            – dim
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          +1 your answer is much better than mine.
          – dim
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          +1 your answer is much better than mine.
          – dim
          9 hours ago












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          It is a thermistor. This senses the battery temperature, so the charger can know when something goes wrong.



          Measuring it likely won't tell you if the battery pack is still working correctly, though.






          share|improve this answer





















          • Of course, that makes perfect sense. I should have thought of that. Easy to verify and not very likely to break. - Many thanks!
            – ARF
            9 hours ago















          up vote
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          It is a thermistor. This senses the battery temperature, so the charger can know when something goes wrong.



          Measuring it likely won't tell you if the battery pack is still working correctly, though.






          share|improve this answer





















          • Of course, that makes perfect sense. I should have thought of that. Easy to verify and not very likely to break. - Many thanks!
            – ARF
            9 hours ago













          up vote
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          up vote
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          It is a thermistor. This senses the battery temperature, so the charger can know when something goes wrong.



          Measuring it likely won't tell you if the battery pack is still working correctly, though.






          share|improve this answer












          It is a thermistor. This senses the battery temperature, so the charger can know when something goes wrong.



          Measuring it likely won't tell you if the battery pack is still working correctly, though.







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          • Of course, that makes perfect sense. I should have thought of that. Easy to verify and not very likely to break. - Many thanks!
            – ARF
            9 hours ago


















          • Of course, that makes perfect sense. I should have thought of that. Easy to verify and not very likely to break. - Many thanks!
            – ARF
            9 hours ago
















          Of course, that makes perfect sense. I should have thought of that. Easy to verify and not very likely to break. - Many thanks!
          – ARF
          9 hours ago




          Of course, that makes perfect sense. I should have thought of that. Easy to verify and not very likely to break. - Many thanks!
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