Is it conventional to sign using the phonetic alphabet like people do in the military or aviation?
I know that most amateur operators simply sign at the beginning or end of a message, like
The weather is good, Kz1XXY
Would it also be customary to say that in phonetic form?
Kilo zulu 1 X-ray X-ray Yankee
procedure callsign phone
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I know that most amateur operators simply sign at the beginning or end of a message, like
The weather is good, Kz1XXY
Would it also be customary to say that in phonetic form?
Kilo zulu 1 X-ray X-ray Yankee
procedure callsign phone
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I know that most amateur operators simply sign at the beginning or end of a message, like
The weather is good, Kz1XXY
Would it also be customary to say that in phonetic form?
Kilo zulu 1 X-ray X-ray Yankee
procedure callsign phone
I know that most amateur operators simply sign at the beginning or end of a message, like
The weather is good, Kz1XXY
Would it also be customary to say that in phonetic form?
Kilo zulu 1 X-ray X-ray Yankee
procedure callsign phone
procedure callsign phone
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The choice of using phonetics ('alpha, bravo, charlie, …') versus plain alphabet sounds ('aye, bee, see, …') should be, and in my limited experience usually is, made based on how likely the recipient is to need them to understand.
Here are two extreme cases:
A contact made using a FM repeater at close range, among people who already know each other, does not need to use phonetics because there is little noise on the received audio and the people already know what they'll be hearing.
On the other hand, someone calling CQ on simplex using SSB either for a contest or DXing will always use phonetics, because they're trying to call anyone they can, particularly operators at the longest possible range, and so they want to maximize understandability when the recipient hears lots of noise and has never heard this particular call sign before.
If someone is doing, say, VHF FM simplex, you might hear either one. If someone is continuing a discussion rather than making the initial contact, they might not use phonetics because they're doing it for the legally required identification rather than to communicate to the other party. And so on.
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Yes, the standard phonetic alphabet is used by radio amateurs. Of course, some people use alternatives in some circumstances - but we are required to know the standard phonetic alphabet.
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Hams conventionally use the ITU phonetic alphabet, although some (usually the older generation) use the WWII alphabet. And some operators make up phonetics that are more nmemonic, for example, I used to be wd8jkb, or (Jellybeans Kill Bacteria.) (Friends teased that it was Juvenlie Kissing Bandit, but I digress). The bottom line is to try to avoid having someone ask, "What's your call again?"
– Duston
5 hours ago
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The choice to use the phonetic alphabet instead of simply saying the numbers and letters is up to each operator. You're free to choose any method that's likely to be understood.
– mrog
3 hours ago
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The choice of using phonetics ('alpha, bravo, charlie, …') versus plain alphabet sounds ('aye, bee, see, …') should be, and in my limited experience usually is, made based on how likely the recipient is to need them to understand.
Here are two extreme cases:
A contact made using a FM repeater at close range, among people who already know each other, does not need to use phonetics because there is little noise on the received audio and the people already know what they'll be hearing.
On the other hand, someone calling CQ on simplex using SSB either for a contest or DXing will always use phonetics, because they're trying to call anyone they can, particularly operators at the longest possible range, and so they want to maximize understandability when the recipient hears lots of noise and has never heard this particular call sign before.
If someone is doing, say, VHF FM simplex, you might hear either one. If someone is continuing a discussion rather than making the initial contact, they might not use phonetics because they're doing it for the legally required identification rather than to communicate to the other party. And so on.
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The choice of using phonetics ('alpha, bravo, charlie, …') versus plain alphabet sounds ('aye, bee, see, …') should be, and in my limited experience usually is, made based on how likely the recipient is to need them to understand.
Here are two extreme cases:
A contact made using a FM repeater at close range, among people who already know each other, does not need to use phonetics because there is little noise on the received audio and the people already know what they'll be hearing.
On the other hand, someone calling CQ on simplex using SSB either for a contest or DXing will always use phonetics, because they're trying to call anyone they can, particularly operators at the longest possible range, and so they want to maximize understandability when the recipient hears lots of noise and has never heard this particular call sign before.
If someone is doing, say, VHF FM simplex, you might hear either one. If someone is continuing a discussion rather than making the initial contact, they might not use phonetics because they're doing it for the legally required identification rather than to communicate to the other party. And so on.
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The choice of using phonetics ('alpha, bravo, charlie, …') versus plain alphabet sounds ('aye, bee, see, …') should be, and in my limited experience usually is, made based on how likely the recipient is to need them to understand.
Here are two extreme cases:
A contact made using a FM repeater at close range, among people who already know each other, does not need to use phonetics because there is little noise on the received audio and the people already know what they'll be hearing.
On the other hand, someone calling CQ on simplex using SSB either for a contest or DXing will always use phonetics, because they're trying to call anyone they can, particularly operators at the longest possible range, and so they want to maximize understandability when the recipient hears lots of noise and has never heard this particular call sign before.
If someone is doing, say, VHF FM simplex, you might hear either one. If someone is continuing a discussion rather than making the initial contact, they might not use phonetics because they're doing it for the legally required identification rather than to communicate to the other party. And so on.
The choice of using phonetics ('alpha, bravo, charlie, …') versus plain alphabet sounds ('aye, bee, see, …') should be, and in my limited experience usually is, made based on how likely the recipient is to need them to understand.
Here are two extreme cases:
A contact made using a FM repeater at close range, among people who already know each other, does not need to use phonetics because there is little noise on the received audio and the people already know what they'll be hearing.
On the other hand, someone calling CQ on simplex using SSB either for a contest or DXing will always use phonetics, because they're trying to call anyone they can, particularly operators at the longest possible range, and so they want to maximize understandability when the recipient hears lots of noise and has never heard this particular call sign before.
If someone is doing, say, VHF FM simplex, you might hear either one. If someone is continuing a discussion rather than making the initial contact, they might not use phonetics because they're doing it for the legally required identification rather than to communicate to the other party. And so on.
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Yes, the standard phonetic alphabet is used by radio amateurs. Of course, some people use alternatives in some circumstances - but we are required to know the standard phonetic alphabet.
2
Hams conventionally use the ITU phonetic alphabet, although some (usually the older generation) use the WWII alphabet. And some operators make up phonetics that are more nmemonic, for example, I used to be wd8jkb, or (Jellybeans Kill Bacteria.) (Friends teased that it was Juvenlie Kissing Bandit, but I digress). The bottom line is to try to avoid having someone ask, "What's your call again?"
– Duston
5 hours ago
1
The choice to use the phonetic alphabet instead of simply saying the numbers and letters is up to each operator. You're free to choose any method that's likely to be understood.
– mrog
3 hours ago
add a comment |
Yes, the standard phonetic alphabet is used by radio amateurs. Of course, some people use alternatives in some circumstances - but we are required to know the standard phonetic alphabet.
2
Hams conventionally use the ITU phonetic alphabet, although some (usually the older generation) use the WWII alphabet. And some operators make up phonetics that are more nmemonic, for example, I used to be wd8jkb, or (Jellybeans Kill Bacteria.) (Friends teased that it was Juvenlie Kissing Bandit, but I digress). The bottom line is to try to avoid having someone ask, "What's your call again?"
– Duston
5 hours ago
1
The choice to use the phonetic alphabet instead of simply saying the numbers and letters is up to each operator. You're free to choose any method that's likely to be understood.
– mrog
3 hours ago
add a comment |
Yes, the standard phonetic alphabet is used by radio amateurs. Of course, some people use alternatives in some circumstances - but we are required to know the standard phonetic alphabet.
Yes, the standard phonetic alphabet is used by radio amateurs. Of course, some people use alternatives in some circumstances - but we are required to know the standard phonetic alphabet.
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Hams conventionally use the ITU phonetic alphabet, although some (usually the older generation) use the WWII alphabet. And some operators make up phonetics that are more nmemonic, for example, I used to be wd8jkb, or (Jellybeans Kill Bacteria.) (Friends teased that it was Juvenlie Kissing Bandit, but I digress). The bottom line is to try to avoid having someone ask, "What's your call again?"
– Duston
5 hours ago
1
The choice to use the phonetic alphabet instead of simply saying the numbers and letters is up to each operator. You're free to choose any method that's likely to be understood.
– mrog
3 hours ago
add a comment |
2
Hams conventionally use the ITU phonetic alphabet, although some (usually the older generation) use the WWII alphabet. And some operators make up phonetics that are more nmemonic, for example, I used to be wd8jkb, or (Jellybeans Kill Bacteria.) (Friends teased that it was Juvenlie Kissing Bandit, but I digress). The bottom line is to try to avoid having someone ask, "What's your call again?"
– Duston
5 hours ago
1
The choice to use the phonetic alphabet instead of simply saying the numbers and letters is up to each operator. You're free to choose any method that's likely to be understood.
– mrog
3 hours ago
2
2
Hams conventionally use the ITU phonetic alphabet, although some (usually the older generation) use the WWII alphabet. And some operators make up phonetics that are more nmemonic, for example, I used to be wd8jkb, or (Jellybeans Kill Bacteria.) (Friends teased that it was Juvenlie Kissing Bandit, but I digress). The bottom line is to try to avoid having someone ask, "What's your call again?"
– Duston
5 hours ago
Hams conventionally use the ITU phonetic alphabet, although some (usually the older generation) use the WWII alphabet. And some operators make up phonetics that are more nmemonic, for example, I used to be wd8jkb, or (Jellybeans Kill Bacteria.) (Friends teased that it was Juvenlie Kissing Bandit, but I digress). The bottom line is to try to avoid having someone ask, "What's your call again?"
– Duston
5 hours ago
1
1
The choice to use the phonetic alphabet instead of simply saying the numbers and letters is up to each operator. You're free to choose any method that's likely to be understood.
– mrog
3 hours ago
The choice to use the phonetic alphabet instead of simply saying the numbers and letters is up to each operator. You're free to choose any method that's likely to be understood.
– mrog
3 hours ago
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