Repurposing A Cargo Ship In A Post-Apocalyptic World
How would one go about repurposing a small cargo ship, no more than 50,000 tons, to run on an alternative fuel source/propulsion other than oil? And what alternative source would work best for propelling a ship that size while meeting the following requirements?
- The ship must be convertible to alternative fuel/propulsion with fairly basic technology: steel, welding, and simple machinery
- Fuel source/propulsion mustn't rely on heavy infrastructure or complex methods of extraction, no nuclear power or what have you
- Should be easily repairable with basic technology
The world the freighter would exist in is a not quite post-apocalyptic earth in which very complex or infrastructure-heavy technologies (like the internet or oil industry) are no longer capable of being manufactured, but for the most part, civilizations are still around. Simple technologies that can be locally manufactured still exist and there are bright spots where the technology is much more advanced.
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How would one go about repurposing a small cargo ship, no more than 50,000 tons, to run on an alternative fuel source/propulsion other than oil? And what alternative source would work best for propelling a ship that size while meeting the following requirements?
- The ship must be convertible to alternative fuel/propulsion with fairly basic technology: steel, welding, and simple machinery
- Fuel source/propulsion mustn't rely on heavy infrastructure or complex methods of extraction, no nuclear power or what have you
- Should be easily repairable with basic technology
The world the freighter would exist in is a not quite post-apocalyptic earth in which very complex or infrastructure-heavy technologies (like the internet or oil industry) are no longer capable of being manufactured, but for the most part, civilizations are still around. Simple technologies that can be locally manufactured still exist and there are bright spots where the technology is much more advanced.
post-apocalypse energy shipbuilding fuels
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The only dependable alternative is coal, but you still need quite an infrastructure to retrofit the ship and provide the needed coal.
– Alexander
7 hours ago
SE's model is one-specific-question/one-best-answer. You're technically asking two: how to modify the ship and what fuel to use. I'd suggest breaking this apart and asking the fuel question first. If that doesn't automatically answer the second, then it would be appropriate to ask the second.
– JBH
3 hours ago
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How would one go about repurposing a small cargo ship, no more than 50,000 tons, to run on an alternative fuel source/propulsion other than oil? And what alternative source would work best for propelling a ship that size while meeting the following requirements?
- The ship must be convertible to alternative fuel/propulsion with fairly basic technology: steel, welding, and simple machinery
- Fuel source/propulsion mustn't rely on heavy infrastructure or complex methods of extraction, no nuclear power or what have you
- Should be easily repairable with basic technology
The world the freighter would exist in is a not quite post-apocalyptic earth in which very complex or infrastructure-heavy technologies (like the internet or oil industry) are no longer capable of being manufactured, but for the most part, civilizations are still around. Simple technologies that can be locally manufactured still exist and there are bright spots where the technology is much more advanced.
post-apocalypse energy shipbuilding fuels
edited 4 hours ago
Gryphon
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asked 7 hours ago
The ImperialThe Imperial
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How would one go about repurposing a small cargo ship, no more than 50,000 tons, to run on an alternative fuel source/propulsion other than oil? And what alternative source would work best for propelling a ship that size while meeting the following requirements?
- The ship must be convertible to alternative fuel/propulsion with fairly basic technology: steel, welding, and simple machinery
- Fuel source/propulsion mustn't rely on heavy infrastructure or complex methods of extraction, no nuclear power or what have you
- Should be easily repairable with basic technology
The world the freighter would exist in is a not quite post-apocalyptic earth in which very complex or infrastructure-heavy technologies (like the internet or oil industry) are no longer capable of being manufactured, but for the most part, civilizations are still around. Simple technologies that can be locally manufactured still exist and there are bright spots where the technology is much more advanced.
post-apocalypse energy shipbuilding fuels
post-apocalypse energy shipbuilding fuels
edited 4 hours ago
Gryphon
3,05822354
asked 7 hours ago
The ImperialThe Imperial
1,452314
edited 4 hours ago
Gryphon
3,05822354
asked 7 hours ago
The ImperialThe Imperial
1,452314
edited 4 hours ago
Gryphon
3,05822354
edited 4 hours ago
Gryphon
3,05822354
edited 4 hours ago
Gryphon
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3,05822354
asked 7 hours ago
The ImperialThe Imperial
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asked 7 hours ago
The ImperialThe Imperial
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asked 7 hours ago
The ImperialThe Imperial
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The only dependable alternative is coal, but you still need quite an infrastructure to retrofit the ship and provide the needed coal.
– Alexander
7 hours ago
SE's model is one-specific-question/one-best-answer. You're technically asking two: how to modify the ship and what fuel to use. I'd suggest breaking this apart and asking the fuel question first. If that doesn't automatically answer the second, then it would be appropriate to ask the second.
– JBH
3 hours ago
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The only dependable alternative is coal, but you still need quite an infrastructure to retrofit the ship and provide the needed coal.
– Alexander
7 hours ago
SE's model is one-specific-question/one-best-answer. You're technically asking two: how to modify the ship and what fuel to use. I'd suggest breaking this apart and asking the fuel question first. If that doesn't automatically answer the second, then it would be appropriate to ask the second.
– JBH
3 hours ago
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The only dependable alternative is coal, but you still need quite an infrastructure to retrofit the ship and provide the needed coal.
– Alexander
7 hours ago
The only dependable alternative is coal, but you still need quite an infrastructure to retrofit the ship and provide the needed coal.
– Alexander
7 hours ago
SE's model is one-specific-question/one-best-answer. You're technically asking two: how to modify the ship and what fuel to use. I'd suggest breaking this apart and asking the fuel question first. If that doesn't automatically answer the second, then it would be appropriate to ask the second.
– JBH
3 hours ago
SE's model is one-specific-question/one-best-answer. You're technically asking two: how to modify the ship and what fuel to use. I'd suggest breaking this apart and asking the fuel question first. If that doesn't automatically answer the second, then it would be appropriate to ask the second.
– JBH
3 hours ago
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One option is to install masts and use wind, the Thomas W. Lawson was a ship 7 masted steel schooner that could carry 58,000 barrels of paraffin oil. Your cargo ship is bigger, but could probably just have more masts. It could make for a very interesting looking artist rendering.
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Way too big for sailing. Thomas W. Lawson didn't survive its first oceangoing attempt.
– Alexander
7 hours ago
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Well, at least according to Wikipedia, that ship was lost long before the storm that broker her up. Arguably, lost as early as before she ever left port! (Poor management by the captain in hiring less than capable sailors to manage a rather unique vessel.) Otherwise, she'd sailed along the Atlantic and in the Gulf for several years.
– elemtilas
4 hours ago
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(cont.) There were also design issues with that ship, apparently, making it very difficult to operate.
– elemtilas
4 hours ago
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Whale oil.
If civilizations have fallen the whales might be doing alright. Round them up and render the oil in the old school way.
Or if that seems too mean, the first steam ships used to run on coal. Digging that up is not especially high tech and you could switch up your ship to use a coal-fired boiler.
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Swap out the engines for electric motors, wire solar panels / windmills to batteries. Should be doable by an electrician and a mechanic, I just don't know what kind of capacity it will be needed.
answered 4 hours ago
ventsyvventsyv
3,290417
Solar can't provide enough power. I picked a 28,000 ton ship at random. If you treat its 187m x 25m size as a rectangle (extending the deck of the ship as needed) and cover it with solar panels, solar panels can generate around 935KW of power at peak sun. Sounds like a lot, but the ship's engines generate 19,000KW of power, so the solar panels can provide less than 5% of the energy needed to move the ship (and only while in peak sun).
– Johnny
36 mins ago
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One option is to install masts and use wind, the Thomas W. Lawson was a ship 7 masted steel schooner that could carry 58,000 barrels of paraffin oil. Your cargo ship is bigger, but could probably just have more masts. It could make for a very interesting looking artist rendering.
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Way too big for sailing. Thomas W. Lawson didn't survive its first oceangoing attempt.
– Alexander
7 hours ago
1
Well, at least according to Wikipedia, that ship was lost long before the storm that broker her up. Arguably, lost as early as before she ever left port! (Poor management by the captain in hiring less than capable sailors to manage a rather unique vessel.) Otherwise, she'd sailed along the Atlantic and in the Gulf for several years.
– elemtilas
4 hours ago
1
(cont.) There were also design issues with that ship, apparently, making it very difficult to operate.
– elemtilas
4 hours ago
add a comment |
One option is to install masts and use wind, the Thomas W. Lawson was a ship 7 masted steel schooner that could carry 58,000 barrels of paraffin oil. Your cargo ship is bigger, but could probably just have more masts. It could make for a very interesting looking artist rendering.
answered 7 hours ago
ZpollockZpollock
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Way too big for sailing. Thomas W. Lawson didn't survive its first oceangoing attempt.
– Alexander
7 hours ago
1
Well, at least according to Wikipedia, that ship was lost long before the storm that broker her up. Arguably, lost as early as before she ever left port! (Poor management by the captain in hiring less than capable sailors to manage a rather unique vessel.) Otherwise, she'd sailed along the Atlantic and in the Gulf for several years.
– elemtilas
4 hours ago
1
(cont.) There were also design issues with that ship, apparently, making it very difficult to operate.
– elemtilas
4 hours ago
add a comment |
One option is to install masts and use wind, the Thomas W. Lawson was a ship 7 masted steel schooner that could carry 58,000 barrels of paraffin oil. Your cargo ship is bigger, but could probably just have more masts. It could make for a very interesting looking artist rendering.
answered 7 hours ago
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One option is to install masts and use wind, the Thomas W. Lawson was a ship 7 masted steel schooner that could carry 58,000 barrels of paraffin oil. Your cargo ship is bigger, but could probably just have more masts. It could make for a very interesting looking artist rendering.
answered 7 hours ago
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Way too big for sailing. Thomas W. Lawson didn't survive its first oceangoing attempt.
– Alexander
7 hours ago
1
Well, at least according to Wikipedia, that ship was lost long before the storm that broker her up. Arguably, lost as early as before she ever left port! (Poor management by the captain in hiring less than capable sailors to manage a rather unique vessel.) Otherwise, she'd sailed along the Atlantic and in the Gulf for several years.
– elemtilas
4 hours ago
1
(cont.) There were also design issues with that ship, apparently, making it very difficult to operate.
– elemtilas
4 hours ago
add a comment |
1
Way too big for sailing. Thomas W. Lawson didn't survive its first oceangoing attempt.
– Alexander
7 hours ago
1
Well, at least according to Wikipedia, that ship was lost long before the storm that broker her up. Arguably, lost as early as before she ever left port! (Poor management by the captain in hiring less than capable sailors to manage a rather unique vessel.) Otherwise, she'd sailed along the Atlantic and in the Gulf for several years.
– elemtilas
4 hours ago
1
(cont.) There were also design issues with that ship, apparently, making it very difficult to operate.
– elemtilas
4 hours ago
1
1
Way too big for sailing. Thomas W. Lawson didn't survive its first oceangoing attempt.
– Alexander
7 hours ago
Way too big for sailing. Thomas W. Lawson didn't survive its first oceangoing attempt.
– Alexander
7 hours ago
1
1
Well, at least according to Wikipedia, that ship was lost long before the storm that broker her up. Arguably, lost as early as before she ever left port! (Poor management by the captain in hiring less than capable sailors to manage a rather unique vessel.) Otherwise, she'd sailed along the Atlantic and in the Gulf for several years.
– elemtilas
4 hours ago
Well, at least according to Wikipedia, that ship was lost long before the storm that broker her up. Arguably, lost as early as before she ever left port! (Poor management by the captain in hiring less than capable sailors to manage a rather unique vessel.) Otherwise, she'd sailed along the Atlantic and in the Gulf for several years.
– elemtilas
4 hours ago
1
1
(cont.) There were also design issues with that ship, apparently, making it very difficult to operate.
– elemtilas
4 hours ago
(cont.) There were also design issues with that ship, apparently, making it very difficult to operate.
– elemtilas
4 hours ago
add a comment |
Whale oil.
If civilizations have fallen the whales might be doing alright. Round them up and render the oil in the old school way.
Or if that seems too mean, the first steam ships used to run on coal. Digging that up is not especially high tech and you could switch up your ship to use a coal-fired boiler.
answered 5 hours ago
WillkWillk
103k25197433
add a comment |
Whale oil.
If civilizations have fallen the whales might be doing alright. Round them up and render the oil in the old school way.
Or if that seems too mean, the first steam ships used to run on coal. Digging that up is not especially high tech and you could switch up your ship to use a coal-fired boiler.
answered 5 hours ago
WillkWillk
103k25197433
add a comment |
Whale oil.
If civilizations have fallen the whales might be doing alright. Round them up and render the oil in the old school way.
Or if that seems too mean, the first steam ships used to run on coal. Digging that up is not especially high tech and you could switch up your ship to use a coal-fired boiler.
answered 5 hours ago
WillkWillk
103k25197433
Whale oil.
If civilizations have fallen the whales might be doing alright. Round them up and render the oil in the old school way.
Or if that seems too mean, the first steam ships used to run on coal. Digging that up is not especially high tech and you could switch up your ship to use a coal-fired boiler.
answered 5 hours ago
WillkWillk
103k25197433
answered 5 hours ago
WillkWillk
103k25197433
answered 5 hours ago
WillkWillk
103k25197433
answered 5 hours ago
WillkWillk
103k25197433
103k25197433
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add a comment |
Swap out the engines for electric motors, wire solar panels / windmills to batteries. Should be doable by an electrician and a mechanic, I just don't know what kind of capacity it will be needed.
answered 4 hours ago
ventsyvventsyv
3,290417
Solar can't provide enough power. I picked a 28,000 ton ship at random. If you treat its 187m x 25m size as a rectangle (extending the deck of the ship as needed) and cover it with solar panels, solar panels can generate around 935KW of power at peak sun. Sounds like a lot, but the ship's engines generate 19,000KW of power, so the solar panels can provide less than 5% of the energy needed to move the ship (and only while in peak sun).
– Johnny
36 mins ago
add a comment |
Swap out the engines for electric motors, wire solar panels / windmills to batteries. Should be doable by an electrician and a mechanic, I just don't know what kind of capacity it will be needed.
answered 4 hours ago
ventsyvventsyv
3,290417
Solar can't provide enough power. I picked a 28,000 ton ship at random. If you treat its 187m x 25m size as a rectangle (extending the deck of the ship as needed) and cover it with solar panels, solar panels can generate around 935KW of power at peak sun. Sounds like a lot, but the ship's engines generate 19,000KW of power, so the solar panels can provide less than 5% of the energy needed to move the ship (and only while in peak sun).
– Johnny
36 mins ago
add a comment |
Swap out the engines for electric motors, wire solar panels / windmills to batteries. Should be doable by an electrician and a mechanic, I just don't know what kind of capacity it will be needed.
answered 4 hours ago
ventsyvventsyv
3,290417
Swap out the engines for electric motors, wire solar panels / windmills to batteries. Should be doable by an electrician and a mechanic, I just don't know what kind of capacity it will be needed.
answered 4 hours ago
ventsyvventsyv
3,290417
answered 4 hours ago
ventsyvventsyv
3,290417
answered 4 hours ago
ventsyvventsyv
3,290417
answered 4 hours ago
ventsyvventsyv
3,290417
3,290417
Solar can't provide enough power. I picked a 28,000 ton ship at random. If you treat its 187m x 25m size as a rectangle (extending the deck of the ship as needed) and cover it with solar panels, solar panels can generate around 935KW of power at peak sun. Sounds like a lot, but the ship's engines generate 19,000KW of power, so the solar panels can provide less than 5% of the energy needed to move the ship (and only while in peak sun).
– Johnny
36 mins ago
add a comment |
Solar can't provide enough power. I picked a 28,000 ton ship at random. If you treat its 187m x 25m size as a rectangle (extending the deck of the ship as needed) and cover it with solar panels, solar panels can generate around 935KW of power at peak sun. Sounds like a lot, but the ship's engines generate 19,000KW of power, so the solar panels can provide less than 5% of the energy needed to move the ship (and only while in peak sun).
– Johnny
36 mins ago
Solar can't provide enough power. I picked a 28,000 ton ship at random. If you treat its 187m x 25m size as a rectangle (extending the deck of the ship as needed) and cover it with solar panels, solar panels can generate around 935KW of power at peak sun. Sounds like a lot, but the ship's engines generate 19,000KW of power, so the solar panels can provide less than 5% of the energy needed to move the ship (and only while in peak sun).
– Johnny
36 mins ago
Solar can't provide enough power. I picked a 28,000 ton ship at random. If you treat its 187m x 25m size as a rectangle (extending the deck of the ship as needed) and cover it with solar panels, solar panels can generate around 935KW of power at peak sun. Sounds like a lot, but the ship's engines generate 19,000KW of power, so the solar panels can provide less than 5% of the energy needed to move the ship (and only while in peak sun).
– Johnny
36 mins ago
add a comment |
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The only dependable alternative is coal, but you still need quite an infrastructure to retrofit the ship and provide the needed coal.
– Alexander
7 hours ago
SE's model is one-specific-question/one-best-answer. You're technically asking two: how to modify the ship and what fuel to use. I'd suggest breaking this apart and asking the fuel question first. If that doesn't automatically answer the second, then it would be appropriate to ask the second.
– JBH
3 hours ago