Cron is trying (and failing) to open env file: /etc/environment
I'm using Devuan ASCII (which is more or less Debian 9, Stretch). Now, my /var/log/auth.log has a bunch of these entries:
Jan 6 09:45:01 mybox CRON[20951]: pam_env(cron:session): Unable to open env file: /etc/environment: No such file or directory
Jan 6 09:45:01 mybox CRON[20951]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)
which apparently get generated when I su.
- Why is cron/pam_env/pam_unix trying to open that file in the first place, rather than checking whether it exists?
- If they legitimately expect it, why isn't it there?
- What should I do about this?
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I'm using Devuan ASCII (which is more or less Debian 9, Stretch). Now, my /var/log/auth.log has a bunch of these entries:
Jan 6 09:45:01 mybox CRON[20951]: pam_env(cron:session): Unable to open env file: /etc/environment: No such file or directory
Jan 6 09:45:01 mybox CRON[20951]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)
which apparently get generated when I su.
- Why is cron/pam_env/pam_unix trying to open that file in the first place, rather than checking whether it exists?
- If they legitimately expect it, why isn't it there?
- What should I do about this?
debian cron environment-variables pam devuan
asked 2 hours ago
einpoklum
2,08341952
add a comment |
I'm using Devuan ASCII (which is more or less Debian 9, Stretch). Now, my /var/log/auth.log has a bunch of these entries:
Jan 6 09:45:01 mybox CRON[20951]: pam_env(cron:session): Unable to open env file: /etc/environment: No such file or directory
Jan 6 09:45:01 mybox CRON[20951]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)
which apparently get generated when I su.
- Why is cron/pam_env/pam_unix trying to open that file in the first place, rather than checking whether it exists?
- If they legitimately expect it, why isn't it there?
- What should I do about this?
debian cron environment-variables pam devuan
asked 2 hours ago
einpoklum
2,08341952
I'm using Devuan ASCII (which is more or less Debian 9, Stretch). Now, my /var/log/auth.log has a bunch of these entries:
Jan 6 09:45:01 mybox CRON[20951]: pam_env(cron:session): Unable to open env file: /etc/environment: No such file or directory
Jan 6 09:45:01 mybox CRON[20951]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)
which apparently get generated when I su.
- Why is cron/pam_env/pam_unix trying to open that file in the first place, rather than checking whether it exists?
- If they legitimately expect it, why isn't it there?
- What should I do about this?
debian cron environment-variables pam devuan
debian cron environment-variables pam devuan
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Answering all of your questions
- Why is cron/pam_env/pam_unix trying to open that file in the first place?
See BUG #646015. In some cases(like locale related stuff) this file is deprecated. But it is still used system-wide, and log is made whenever it is missing.
- If they legitimately expect it, why isn't it there?
Cause maybe the bug isn't fixed after all. Steve Langasek (BUG #646015) said it is, and new systems should create that file using postinst scripts the same way old systems being upgraded should already have that file.
- What should I do about this?
- Run
dpkg-reconfigure libpam-modulesand see if it will create the file through itspostinstscript. - If that does not work, create the file manually with
touch /etc/environment
It's also interesting to report your issue to the Devuan Project with details of the problem and your setup since this issue was resolved before the Debian/Devuan fork happened.
answered 1 hour ago
nwildner
14k14176
Wait, what?/etc/environmentis deprecated? Since when? Do you have a reference for this? The bug report you link to has one user claiming it is deprecated and another claiming it is not.
– terdon♦
18 mins ago
OK, i have misquoted the link. Putting LOCALE related stuff inside/etc/environmentbecame deprecated.
– nwildner
11 mins ago
Could you remove the mention of its being deprecated then? As far as I know, this is a very standard file that's been around for ages and locale settings are only a small part of what it's used for.
– terdon♦
9 mins ago
add a comment |
An inelegant but perfectly valid solution is to give those modules what they want: As root, execute
touch /etc/environment
and to make sure the permissions are right, just in case:
chmod 644 /etc/environment
answered 2 hours ago
einpoklum
2,08341952
2
Note that this behavior is completely normal. Thepam_envis expected to look for/etc/environmentand that's the default way that the/etc/environmentfile is read, at least on Linux systems.
– terdon♦
1 hour ago
I have it here:cat /etc/environmentQT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct
– Rui F Ribeiro
1 hour ago
@terdon: Looking for it is fine, assuming it exists is not fine. It's either a bug inpam_envor an issue with Debian.
– einpoklum
1 hour ago
Sounds more like a bug of the specific distro. That is a standard file and it exists in Debian. But is this actually a problem? Does it cause any issue other than a message in the log?
– terdon♦
1 hour ago
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Answering all of your questions
- Why is cron/pam_env/pam_unix trying to open that file in the first place?
See BUG #646015. In some cases(like locale related stuff) this file is deprecated. But it is still used system-wide, and log is made whenever it is missing.
- If they legitimately expect it, why isn't it there?
Cause maybe the bug isn't fixed after all. Steve Langasek (BUG #646015) said it is, and new systems should create that file using postinst scripts the same way old systems being upgraded should already have that file.
- What should I do about this?
- Run
dpkg-reconfigure libpam-modulesand see if it will create the file through itspostinstscript. - If that does not work, create the file manually with
touch /etc/environment
It's also interesting to report your issue to the Devuan Project with details of the problem and your setup since this issue was resolved before the Debian/Devuan fork happened.
answered 1 hour ago
nwildner
14k14176
Wait, what?/etc/environmentis deprecated? Since when? Do you have a reference for this? The bug report you link to has one user claiming it is deprecated and another claiming it is not.
– terdon♦
18 mins ago
OK, i have misquoted the link. Putting LOCALE related stuff inside/etc/environmentbecame deprecated.
– nwildner
11 mins ago
Could you remove the mention of its being deprecated then? As far as I know, this is a very standard file that's been around for ages and locale settings are only a small part of what it's used for.
– terdon♦
9 mins ago
add a comment |
Answering all of your questions
- Why is cron/pam_env/pam_unix trying to open that file in the first place?
See BUG #646015. In some cases(like locale related stuff) this file is deprecated. But it is still used system-wide, and log is made whenever it is missing.
- If they legitimately expect it, why isn't it there?
Cause maybe the bug isn't fixed after all. Steve Langasek (BUG #646015) said it is, and new systems should create that file using postinst scripts the same way old systems being upgraded should already have that file.
- What should I do about this?
- Run
dpkg-reconfigure libpam-modulesand see if it will create the file through itspostinstscript. - If that does not work, create the file manually with
touch /etc/environment
It's also interesting to report your issue to the Devuan Project with details of the problem and your setup since this issue was resolved before the Debian/Devuan fork happened.
answered 1 hour ago
nwildner
14k14176
Wait, what?/etc/environmentis deprecated? Since when? Do you have a reference for this? The bug report you link to has one user claiming it is deprecated and another claiming it is not.
– terdon♦
18 mins ago
OK, i have misquoted the link. Putting LOCALE related stuff inside/etc/environmentbecame deprecated.
– nwildner
11 mins ago
Could you remove the mention of its being deprecated then? As far as I know, this is a very standard file that's been around for ages and locale settings are only a small part of what it's used for.
– terdon♦
9 mins ago
add a comment |
Answering all of your questions
- Why is cron/pam_env/pam_unix trying to open that file in the first place?
See BUG #646015. In some cases(like locale related stuff) this file is deprecated. But it is still used system-wide, and log is made whenever it is missing.
- If they legitimately expect it, why isn't it there?
Cause maybe the bug isn't fixed after all. Steve Langasek (BUG #646015) said it is, and new systems should create that file using postinst scripts the same way old systems being upgraded should already have that file.
- What should I do about this?
- Run
dpkg-reconfigure libpam-modulesand see if it will create the file through itspostinstscript. - If that does not work, create the file manually with
touch /etc/environment
It's also interesting to report your issue to the Devuan Project with details of the problem and your setup since this issue was resolved before the Debian/Devuan fork happened.
answered 1 hour ago
nwildner
14k14176
Answering all of your questions
- Why is cron/pam_env/pam_unix trying to open that file in the first place?
See BUG #646015. In some cases(like locale related stuff) this file is deprecated. But it is still used system-wide, and log is made whenever it is missing.
- If they legitimately expect it, why isn't it there?
Cause maybe the bug isn't fixed after all. Steve Langasek (BUG #646015) said it is, and new systems should create that file using postinst scripts the same way old systems being upgraded should already have that file.
- What should I do about this?
- Run
dpkg-reconfigure libpam-modulesand see if it will create the file through itspostinstscript. - If that does not work, create the file manually with
touch /etc/environment
It's also interesting to report your issue to the Devuan Project with details of the problem and your setup since this issue was resolved before the Debian/Devuan fork happened.
answered 1 hour ago
nwildner
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answered 1 hour ago
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Wait, what?/etc/environmentis deprecated? Since when? Do you have a reference for this? The bug report you link to has one user claiming it is deprecated and another claiming it is not.
– terdon♦
18 mins ago
OK, i have misquoted the link. Putting LOCALE related stuff inside/etc/environmentbecame deprecated.
– nwildner
11 mins ago
Could you remove the mention of its being deprecated then? As far as I know, this is a very standard file that's been around for ages and locale settings are only a small part of what it's used for.
– terdon♦
9 mins ago
add a comment |
Wait, what?/etc/environmentis deprecated? Since when? Do you have a reference for this? The bug report you link to has one user claiming it is deprecated and another claiming it is not.
– terdon♦
18 mins ago
OK, i have misquoted the link. Putting LOCALE related stuff inside/etc/environmentbecame deprecated.
– nwildner
11 mins ago
Could you remove the mention of its being deprecated then? As far as I know, this is a very standard file that's been around for ages and locale settings are only a small part of what it's used for.
– terdon♦
9 mins ago
Wait, what?
/etc/environment is deprecated? Since when? Do you have a reference for this? The bug report you link to has one user claiming it is deprecated and another claiming it is not.– terdon♦
18 mins ago
Wait, what?
/etc/environment is deprecated? Since when? Do you have a reference for this? The bug report you link to has one user claiming it is deprecated and another claiming it is not.– terdon♦
18 mins ago
OK, i have misquoted the link. Putting LOCALE related stuff inside
/etc/environment became deprecated.– nwildner
11 mins ago
OK, i have misquoted the link. Putting LOCALE related stuff inside
/etc/environment became deprecated.– nwildner
11 mins ago
Could you remove the mention of its being deprecated then? As far as I know, this is a very standard file that's been around for ages and locale settings are only a small part of what it's used for.
– terdon♦
9 mins ago
Could you remove the mention of its being deprecated then? As far as I know, this is a very standard file that's been around for ages and locale settings are only a small part of what it's used for.
– terdon♦
9 mins ago
add a comment |
An inelegant but perfectly valid solution is to give those modules what they want: As root, execute
touch /etc/environment
and to make sure the permissions are right, just in case:
chmod 644 /etc/environment
answered 2 hours ago
einpoklum
2,08341952
2
Note that this behavior is completely normal. Thepam_envis expected to look for/etc/environmentand that's the default way that the/etc/environmentfile is read, at least on Linux systems.
– terdon♦
1 hour ago
I have it here:cat /etc/environmentQT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct
– Rui F Ribeiro
1 hour ago
@terdon: Looking for it is fine, assuming it exists is not fine. It's either a bug inpam_envor an issue with Debian.
– einpoklum
1 hour ago
Sounds more like a bug of the specific distro. That is a standard file and it exists in Debian. But is this actually a problem? Does it cause any issue other than a message in the log?
– terdon♦
1 hour ago
add a comment |
An inelegant but perfectly valid solution is to give those modules what they want: As root, execute
touch /etc/environment
and to make sure the permissions are right, just in case:
chmod 644 /etc/environment
answered 2 hours ago
einpoklum
2,08341952
2
Note that this behavior is completely normal. Thepam_envis expected to look for/etc/environmentand that's the default way that the/etc/environmentfile is read, at least on Linux systems.
– terdon♦
1 hour ago
I have it here:cat /etc/environmentQT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct
– Rui F Ribeiro
1 hour ago
@terdon: Looking for it is fine, assuming it exists is not fine. It's either a bug inpam_envor an issue with Debian.
– einpoklum
1 hour ago
Sounds more like a bug of the specific distro. That is a standard file and it exists in Debian. But is this actually a problem? Does it cause any issue other than a message in the log?
– terdon♦
1 hour ago
add a comment |
An inelegant but perfectly valid solution is to give those modules what they want: As root, execute
touch /etc/environment
and to make sure the permissions are right, just in case:
chmod 644 /etc/environment
answered 2 hours ago
einpoklum
2,08341952
An inelegant but perfectly valid solution is to give those modules what they want: As root, execute
touch /etc/environment
and to make sure the permissions are right, just in case:
chmod 644 /etc/environment
answered 2 hours ago
einpoklum
2,08341952
answered 2 hours ago
einpoklum
2,08341952
answered 2 hours ago
einpoklum
2,08341952
answered 2 hours ago
einpoklum
2,08341952
2,08341952
2
Note that this behavior is completely normal. Thepam_envis expected to look for/etc/environmentand that's the default way that the/etc/environmentfile is read, at least on Linux systems.
– terdon♦
1 hour ago
I have it here:cat /etc/environmentQT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct
– Rui F Ribeiro
1 hour ago
@terdon: Looking for it is fine, assuming it exists is not fine. It's either a bug inpam_envor an issue with Debian.
– einpoklum
1 hour ago
Sounds more like a bug of the specific distro. That is a standard file and it exists in Debian. But is this actually a problem? Does it cause any issue other than a message in the log?
– terdon♦
1 hour ago
add a comment |
2
Note that this behavior is completely normal. Thepam_envis expected to look for/etc/environmentand that's the default way that the/etc/environmentfile is read, at least on Linux systems.
– terdon♦
1 hour ago
I have it here:cat /etc/environmentQT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct
– Rui F Ribeiro
1 hour ago
@terdon: Looking for it is fine, assuming it exists is not fine. It's either a bug inpam_envor an issue with Debian.
– einpoklum
1 hour ago
Sounds more like a bug of the specific distro. That is a standard file and it exists in Debian. But is this actually a problem? Does it cause any issue other than a message in the log?
– terdon♦
1 hour ago
2
2
Note that this behavior is completely normal. The
pam_env is expected to look for /etc/environment and that's the default way that the /etc/environment file is read, at least on Linux systems.– terdon♦
1 hour ago
Note that this behavior is completely normal. The
pam_env is expected to look for /etc/environment and that's the default way that the /etc/environment file is read, at least on Linux systems.– terdon♦
1 hour ago
I have it here:
cat /etc/environment QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct– Rui F Ribeiro
1 hour ago
I have it here:
cat /etc/environment QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct– Rui F Ribeiro
1 hour ago
@terdon: Looking for it is fine, assuming it exists is not fine. It's either a bug in
pam_env or an issue with Debian.– einpoklum
1 hour ago
@terdon: Looking for it is fine, assuming it exists is not fine. It's either a bug in
pam_env or an issue with Debian.– einpoklum
1 hour ago
Sounds more like a bug of the specific distro. That is a standard file and it exists in Debian. But is this actually a problem? Does it cause any issue other than a message in the log?
– terdon♦
1 hour ago
Sounds more like a bug of the specific distro. That is a standard file and it exists in Debian. But is this actually a problem? Does it cause any issue other than a message in the log?
– terdon♦
1 hour ago
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