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Is it best practice to have all information pass through the MODEL to the CONTROLLER?



For example, I have a controller named "Apps" and a model named "App". I want to show a form with a list of users, which is in the "Users" class in the libraries folder. Can I simply request the list of users from the "Users" class directly from the CONTROLLER or is it best to first go through the MODEL and then to the CONTROLLER?



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  • Controllers are not supposed to pull information from the Model layer. Their responsibility is to alter the state of said layer. The view classes are the ones, that are responsible for gathering the current (or changed) state from the Model layer and populating templates with it.
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Is it best practice to have all information pass through the MODEL to the CONTROLLER?



For example, I have a controller named "Apps" and a model named "App". I want to show a form with a list of users, which is in the "Users" class in the libraries folder. Can I simply request the list of users from the "Users" class directly from the CONTROLLER or is it best to first go through the MODEL and then to the CONTROLLER?



TIA










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  • Controllers are not supposed to pull information from the Model layer. Their responsibility is to alter the state of said layer. The view classes are the ones, that are responsible for gathering the current (or changed) state from the Model layer and populating templates with it.
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    Nov 21 at 11:35














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Is it best practice to have all information pass through the MODEL to the CONTROLLER?



For example, I have a controller named "Apps" and a model named "App". I want to show a form with a list of users, which is in the "Users" class in the libraries folder. Can I simply request the list of users from the "Users" class directly from the CONTROLLER or is it best to first go through the MODEL and then to the CONTROLLER?



TIA










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Is it best practice to have all information pass through the MODEL to the CONTROLLER?



For example, I have a controller named "Apps" and a model named "App". I want to show a form with a list of users, which is in the "Users" class in the libraries folder. Can I simply request the list of users from the "Users" class directly from the CONTROLLER or is it best to first go through the MODEL and then to the CONTROLLER?



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  • Controllers are not supposed to pull information from the Model layer. Their responsibility is to alter the state of said layer. The view classes are the ones, that are responsible for gathering the current (or changed) state from the Model layer and populating templates with it.
    – tereško
    Nov 21 at 11:35


















  • Controllers are not supposed to pull information from the Model layer. Their responsibility is to alter the state of said layer. The view classes are the ones, that are responsible for gathering the current (or changed) state from the Model layer and populating templates with it.
    – tereško
    Nov 21 at 11:35
















Controllers are not supposed to pull information from the Model layer. Their responsibility is to alter the state of said layer. The view classes are the ones, that are responsible for gathering the current (or changed) state from the Model layer and populating templates with it.
– tereško
Nov 21 at 11:35




Controllers are not supposed to pull information from the Model layer. Their responsibility is to alter the state of said layer. The view classes are the ones, that are responsible for gathering the current (or changed) state from the Model layer and populating templates with it.
– tereško
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The way MVC normally works, is that the View makes a request to the Controller. The Controller then accesses the Model, handles all the business logic and updates the View.



So in your case, the User class could be your Model.



Eg.




  • The View requests a list of users

  • The Controller handles the request and gets the list of users from the Model (eg. through database)

  • The Controller then updates the View with the list or the View has access to the list and renders it.


Here is more information.






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    As you tag your question with php I can explain in its terms. View(HTML form or AJAX) do request to controller, usually a php file(by post or get request) what processes and redirects requests to (Model)separate php code what work with data(DB), that code returns result to controller and it one to model. Consider using some existing MVC framework what suits your needs.




    Model–view–controller is an architectural pattern commonly used for
    developing user interfaces that divides an application into three
    interconnected parts. This is done to separate internal
    representations of information from the ways information is presented
    to and accepted from the user. The MVC design pattern decouples these
    major components allowing for efficient code reuse and parallel
    development.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model%E2%80%93view%E2%80%93controller







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      I'm agree your point, but we must consider the size of the project. For example, in one big-size project, I usually command it like controller <=> services <=> models <=> tables.




      • Tables: run sql (CURD)

      • Models: call tables finish one feature (Like after get article also need update view times)

      • Services: call models finish one function (Like payment)

      • Controllers: Input/Permissions validator then call service finish it.


      Of course, if one simple blog we can do all in controllers.



      And same idea for view, may full page, may group components as one page, and component may also has childrens.






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        The way MVC normally works, is that the View makes a request to the Controller. The Controller then accesses the Model, handles all the business logic and updates the View.



        So in your case, the User class could be your Model.



        Eg.




        • The View requests a list of users

        • The Controller handles the request and gets the list of users from the Model (eg. through database)

        • The Controller then updates the View with the list or the View has access to the list and renders it.


        Here is more information.






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          The way MVC normally works, is that the View makes a request to the Controller. The Controller then accesses the Model, handles all the business logic and updates the View.



          So in your case, the User class could be your Model.



          Eg.




          • The View requests a list of users

          • The Controller handles the request and gets the list of users from the Model (eg. through database)

          • The Controller then updates the View with the list or the View has access to the list and renders it.


          Here is more information.






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            The way MVC normally works, is that the View makes a request to the Controller. The Controller then accesses the Model, handles all the business logic and updates the View.



            So in your case, the User class could be your Model.



            Eg.




            • The View requests a list of users

            • The Controller handles the request and gets the list of users from the Model (eg. through database)

            • The Controller then updates the View with the list or the View has access to the list and renders it.


            Here is more information.






            share|improve this answer












            The way MVC normally works, is that the View makes a request to the Controller. The Controller then accesses the Model, handles all the business logic and updates the View.



            So in your case, the User class could be your Model.



            Eg.




            • The View requests a list of users

            • The Controller handles the request and gets the list of users from the Model (eg. through database)

            • The Controller then updates the View with the list or the View has access to the list and renders it.


            Here is more information.







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                As you tag your question with php I can explain in its terms. View(HTML form or AJAX) do request to controller, usually a php file(by post or get request) what processes and redirects requests to (Model)separate php code what work with data(DB), that code returns result to controller and it one to model. Consider using some existing MVC framework what suits your needs.




                Model–view–controller is an architectural pattern commonly used for
                developing user interfaces that divides an application into three
                interconnected parts. This is done to separate internal
                representations of information from the ways information is presented
                to and accepted from the user. The MVC design pattern decouples these
                major components allowing for efficient code reuse and parallel
                development.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model%E2%80%93view%E2%80%93controller







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                  As you tag your question with php I can explain in its terms. View(HTML form or AJAX) do request to controller, usually a php file(by post or get request) what processes and redirects requests to (Model)separate php code what work with data(DB), that code returns result to controller and it one to model. Consider using some existing MVC framework what suits your needs.




                  Model–view–controller is an architectural pattern commonly used for
                  developing user interfaces that divides an application into three
                  interconnected parts. This is done to separate internal
                  representations of information from the ways information is presented
                  to and accepted from the user. The MVC design pattern decouples these
                  major components allowing for efficient code reuse and parallel
                  development.
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model%E2%80%93view%E2%80%93controller







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                    As you tag your question with php I can explain in its terms. View(HTML form or AJAX) do request to controller, usually a php file(by post or get request) what processes and redirects requests to (Model)separate php code what work with data(DB), that code returns result to controller and it one to model. Consider using some existing MVC framework what suits your needs.




                    Model–view–controller is an architectural pattern commonly used for
                    developing user interfaces that divides an application into three
                    interconnected parts. This is done to separate internal
                    representations of information from the ways information is presented
                    to and accepted from the user. The MVC design pattern decouples these
                    major components allowing for efficient code reuse and parallel
                    development.
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model%E2%80%93view%E2%80%93controller







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                    As you tag your question with php I can explain in its terms. View(HTML form or AJAX) do request to controller, usually a php file(by post or get request) what processes and redirects requests to (Model)separate php code what work with data(DB), that code returns result to controller and it one to model. Consider using some existing MVC framework what suits your needs.




                    Model–view–controller is an architectural pattern commonly used for
                    developing user interfaces that divides an application into three
                    interconnected parts. This is done to separate internal
                    representations of information from the ways information is presented
                    to and accepted from the user. The MVC design pattern decouples these
                    major components allowing for efficient code reuse and parallel
                    development.
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model%E2%80%93view%E2%80%93controller








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                        I'm agree your point, but we must consider the size of the project. For example, in one big-size project, I usually command it like controller <=> services <=> models <=> tables.




                        • Tables: run sql (CURD)

                        • Models: call tables finish one feature (Like after get article also need update view times)

                        • Services: call models finish one function (Like payment)

                        • Controllers: Input/Permissions validator then call service finish it.


                        Of course, if one simple blog we can do all in controllers.



                        And same idea for view, may full page, may group components as one page, and component may also has childrens.






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                          I'm agree your point, but we must consider the size of the project. For example, in one big-size project, I usually command it like controller <=> services <=> models <=> tables.




                          • Tables: run sql (CURD)

                          • Models: call tables finish one feature (Like after get article also need update view times)

                          • Services: call models finish one function (Like payment)

                          • Controllers: Input/Permissions validator then call service finish it.


                          Of course, if one simple blog we can do all in controllers.



                          And same idea for view, may full page, may group components as one page, and component may also has childrens.






                          share|improve this answer
























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                            I'm agree your point, but we must consider the size of the project. For example, in one big-size project, I usually command it like controller <=> services <=> models <=> tables.




                            • Tables: run sql (CURD)

                            • Models: call tables finish one feature (Like after get article also need update view times)

                            • Services: call models finish one function (Like payment)

                            • Controllers: Input/Permissions validator then call service finish it.


                            Of course, if one simple blog we can do all in controllers.



                            And same idea for view, may full page, may group components as one page, and component may also has childrens.






                            share|improve this answer












                            I'm agree your point, but we must consider the size of the project. For example, in one big-size project, I usually command it like controller <=> services <=> models <=> tables.




                            • Tables: run sql (CURD)

                            • Models: call tables finish one feature (Like after get article also need update view times)

                            • Services: call models finish one function (Like payment)

                            • Controllers: Input/Permissions validator then call service finish it.


                            Of course, if one simple blog we can do all in controllers.



                            And same idea for view, may full page, may group components as one page, and component may also has childrens.







                            share|improve this answer












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