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According to @ChristianHupfer's comment here
I understood that calculations are possible in a keyval list when the macro is expandable. The macro numexpr being expandable, calculations are possible.



Hence the interest in knowing which macros are and which are not expandable from TeX, LaTeX, e-TeX, etc.



Edit: I am not asking if there is a test, but if there is a list already made.










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According to @ChristianHupfer's comment here
I understood that calculations are possible in a keyval list when the macro is expandable. The macro numexpr being expandable, calculations are possible.



Hence the interest in knowing which macros are and which are not expandable from TeX, LaTeX, e-TeX, etc.



Edit: I am not asking if there is a test, but if there is a list already made.










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According to @ChristianHupfer's comment here
I understood that calculations are possible in a keyval list when the macro is expandable. The macro numexpr being expandable, calculations are possible.



Hence the interest in knowing which macros are and which are not expandable from TeX, LaTeX, e-TeX, etc.



Edit: I am not asking if there is a test, but if there is a list already made.










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I understood that calculations are possible in a keyval list when the macro is expandable. The macro numexpr being expandable, calculations are possible.



Hence the interest in knowing which macros are and which are not expandable from TeX, LaTeX, e-TeX, etc.



Edit: I am not asking if there is a test, but if there is a list already made.







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A list of all expandable macros is entirely impossible to provide: there are an open-ended number of cases. What one can do is provide a list of primitives which work by expansion, and general rules for macros.



Essentially, any primitives which carry out assignment or typesetting are not expandable, whilst other primitives are. Thus for example def, let, etc. are all non-expandable, as are hbox, raise, setbox, whereas expandafter, the and ifx are all expandable. Note that some primitives will be expandable in the right context: numexpr is not expandable in itself, but is a valid token coming after the or number:



edeftesta{numexpr 1+2relax}showtesta
edeftestb{numbernumexpr 1+2relax}showtestb


In terms of macros, we have to be clear what we mean by 'expandable'. TeX is a macro expansion language, so if we have for example



defbaz{}
deffoo{defbaz{bar}}


then we can do



edeftest{foo}showtest


although the result is not what is likely wanted/useful. As such, when we talk about expandable macros we normally mean macros which contain only expandable primitives and which thus can be used 'safely' inside an edef or similar. With e-TeX, it' possible to ensure that macros which don't meet this criterion don't 'blow up':



defbaz{}
protecteddeffoo{defbaz{bar}}
edeftest{foo}showtest


Where does that take us? Any macro which contains:




  • Any assignment primitive

  • Any typesetting primitive

  • Any protected macro

  • Any macro which itself meets one of the three criteria above


is not expandable. That is the majority of 'useful' macros, so as mentioned in comments, if you are not sure, assume non-expandable.





Note that the list of non-expandable primitives is quite long, and we do have to remember about the context. For example, something like tracingcommands acts like a count register, so is non-expandable unless if follows the. Thus unless we implement a token-by-token processor, just seeing tracingcommands doesn't tell us that a macro containing this token is not expandable.



deffoo{tracingcommands=1 }% Not expandable
defbaz{thetracingcommands}% Expandable




In LaTeX3/expl3, all macros are either fully expandable or are protected. Moreover, the expandable ones are all marked as such (with a star) in the documentation. The reason is that it requires some knowledge to see if something is expandable, in particular checking all macro 'dependencies'. As such, one has to work carefully to track expandable macros.






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    There are around 300 TeX90 primitives, plus a lot more added by e-TeX, XeTeX, LuaTeX, ... A list of all non-expandable (or indeed expandable) ones is going to be long, and I'd say not all that useful.
    – Joseph Wright
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Joseph has already answered, interpreting the "expandable` in your question as "fully expandable" (or what is perhaps better named as "safe in an expansion only context" see



Advantages and disadvantages of fully expandable macros



However to answer the question as actually asked, note that numexpr is neither a macro nor expandable.



All macros are by definition expandable, a macro works by expanding to its replacement text. There is no list of these as it is any command defined via def or its variants edef, gdef, xdef.



The TeXBook lists all the TeX primitivies, these are marked by a * in the index, although you need to check the description of each individually to see if they are expandable.





In classic TeX, the expandable primitives are (I think:-)



expandafter
the
number
romannumeral
if
ifx
ifcat
ifcase
ifnum
ifodd
ifdim
ifeof
iftrue
iffalse
ifhbox
ifvbox
ifvoid
ifinner
ifvnode
ifhmode
ifmmode
else
or
fi
input % (@@input in LaTeX)
jobname
meaning
noexpand
string
topmark
firstmark
botmark




in etex the additional expandable prinitoves are



topmarks
firstmarks
botmarks
ifdefined
ifcsname
iffontchar
unless
eTeXrevision
unexpanded
detokenize
scantokens




in addition to all the above pdftex adds the following expandable prmitives



pdfescapestring
pdfescapename
pdfescapehex
pdfstrcmp
pdfmatch
ifpdfabsnum
ifpdfabsdim
pdfuniformdeviate
pdfnormaldeviate
pdffilemoddate
pdffilesize
pdfmdffivesum
pdffiledump
pdfcolorstackinit
ifincsname
ifpdfprimitive
pdfcreationdate
pdfinsertht
pdftexbanner
pdftexrevision
expanded % (in development versions for texlive 2019)





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    A list of all expandable macros is entirely impossible to provide: there are an open-ended number of cases. What one can do is provide a list of primitives which work by expansion, and general rules for macros.



    Essentially, any primitives which carry out assignment or typesetting are not expandable, whilst other primitives are. Thus for example def, let, etc. are all non-expandable, as are hbox, raise, setbox, whereas expandafter, the and ifx are all expandable. Note that some primitives will be expandable in the right context: numexpr is not expandable in itself, but is a valid token coming after the or number:



    edeftesta{numexpr 1+2relax}showtesta
    edeftestb{numbernumexpr 1+2relax}showtestb


    In terms of macros, we have to be clear what we mean by 'expandable'. TeX is a macro expansion language, so if we have for example



    defbaz{}
    deffoo{defbaz{bar}}


    then we can do



    edeftest{foo}showtest


    although the result is not what is likely wanted/useful. As such, when we talk about expandable macros we normally mean macros which contain only expandable primitives and which thus can be used 'safely' inside an edef or similar. With e-TeX, it' possible to ensure that macros which don't meet this criterion don't 'blow up':



    defbaz{}
    protecteddeffoo{defbaz{bar}}
    edeftest{foo}showtest


    Where does that take us? Any macro which contains:




    • Any assignment primitive

    • Any typesetting primitive

    • Any protected macro

    • Any macro which itself meets one of the three criteria above


    is not expandable. That is the majority of 'useful' macros, so as mentioned in comments, if you are not sure, assume non-expandable.





    Note that the list of non-expandable primitives is quite long, and we do have to remember about the context. For example, something like tracingcommands acts like a count register, so is non-expandable unless if follows the. Thus unless we implement a token-by-token processor, just seeing tracingcommands doesn't tell us that a macro containing this token is not expandable.



    deffoo{tracingcommands=1 }% Not expandable
    defbaz{thetracingcommands}% Expandable




    In LaTeX3/expl3, all macros are either fully expandable or are protected. Moreover, the expandable ones are all marked as such (with a star) in the documentation. The reason is that it requires some knowledge to see if something is expandable, in particular checking all macro 'dependencies'. As such, one has to work carefully to track expandable macros.






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      There are around 300 TeX90 primitives, plus a lot more added by e-TeX, XeTeX, LuaTeX, ... A list of all non-expandable (or indeed expandable) ones is going to be long, and I'd say not all that useful.
      – Joseph Wright
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    A list of all expandable macros is entirely impossible to provide: there are an open-ended number of cases. What one can do is provide a list of primitives which work by expansion, and general rules for macros.



    Essentially, any primitives which carry out assignment or typesetting are not expandable, whilst other primitives are. Thus for example def, let, etc. are all non-expandable, as are hbox, raise, setbox, whereas expandafter, the and ifx are all expandable. Note that some primitives will be expandable in the right context: numexpr is not expandable in itself, but is a valid token coming after the or number:



    edeftesta{numexpr 1+2relax}showtesta
    edeftestb{numbernumexpr 1+2relax}showtestb


    In terms of macros, we have to be clear what we mean by 'expandable'. TeX is a macro expansion language, so if we have for example



    defbaz{}
    deffoo{defbaz{bar}}


    then we can do



    edeftest{foo}showtest


    although the result is not what is likely wanted/useful. As such, when we talk about expandable macros we normally mean macros which contain only expandable primitives and which thus can be used 'safely' inside an edef or similar. With e-TeX, it' possible to ensure that macros which don't meet this criterion don't 'blow up':



    defbaz{}
    protecteddeffoo{defbaz{bar}}
    edeftest{foo}showtest


    Where does that take us? Any macro which contains:




    • Any assignment primitive

    • Any typesetting primitive

    • Any protected macro

    • Any macro which itself meets one of the three criteria above


    is not expandable. That is the majority of 'useful' macros, so as mentioned in comments, if you are not sure, assume non-expandable.





    Note that the list of non-expandable primitives is quite long, and we do have to remember about the context. For example, something like tracingcommands acts like a count register, so is non-expandable unless if follows the. Thus unless we implement a token-by-token processor, just seeing tracingcommands doesn't tell us that a macro containing this token is not expandable.



    deffoo{tracingcommands=1 }% Not expandable
    defbaz{thetracingcommands}% Expandable




    In LaTeX3/expl3, all macros are either fully expandable or are protected. Moreover, the expandable ones are all marked as such (with a star) in the documentation. The reason is that it requires some knowledge to see if something is expandable, in particular checking all macro 'dependencies'. As such, one has to work carefully to track expandable macros.






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      There are around 300 TeX90 primitives, plus a lot more added by e-TeX, XeTeX, LuaTeX, ... A list of all non-expandable (or indeed expandable) ones is going to be long, and I'd say not all that useful.
      – Joseph Wright
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    A list of all expandable macros is entirely impossible to provide: there are an open-ended number of cases. What one can do is provide a list of primitives which work by expansion, and general rules for macros.



    Essentially, any primitives which carry out assignment or typesetting are not expandable, whilst other primitives are. Thus for example def, let, etc. are all non-expandable, as are hbox, raise, setbox, whereas expandafter, the and ifx are all expandable. Note that some primitives will be expandable in the right context: numexpr is not expandable in itself, but is a valid token coming after the or number:



    edeftesta{numexpr 1+2relax}showtesta
    edeftestb{numbernumexpr 1+2relax}showtestb


    In terms of macros, we have to be clear what we mean by 'expandable'. TeX is a macro expansion language, so if we have for example



    defbaz{}
    deffoo{defbaz{bar}}


    then we can do



    edeftest{foo}showtest


    although the result is not what is likely wanted/useful. As such, when we talk about expandable macros we normally mean macros which contain only expandable primitives and which thus can be used 'safely' inside an edef or similar. With e-TeX, it' possible to ensure that macros which don't meet this criterion don't 'blow up':



    defbaz{}
    protecteddeffoo{defbaz{bar}}
    edeftest{foo}showtest


    Where does that take us? Any macro which contains:




    • Any assignment primitive

    • Any typesetting primitive

    • Any protected macro

    • Any macro which itself meets one of the three criteria above


    is not expandable. That is the majority of 'useful' macros, so as mentioned in comments, if you are not sure, assume non-expandable.





    Note that the list of non-expandable primitives is quite long, and we do have to remember about the context. For example, something like tracingcommands acts like a count register, so is non-expandable unless if follows the. Thus unless we implement a token-by-token processor, just seeing tracingcommands doesn't tell us that a macro containing this token is not expandable.



    deffoo{tracingcommands=1 }% Not expandable
    defbaz{thetracingcommands}% Expandable




    In LaTeX3/expl3, all macros are either fully expandable or are protected. Moreover, the expandable ones are all marked as such (with a star) in the documentation. The reason is that it requires some knowledge to see if something is expandable, in particular checking all macro 'dependencies'. As such, one has to work carefully to track expandable macros.






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    A list of all expandable macros is entirely impossible to provide: there are an open-ended number of cases. What one can do is provide a list of primitives which work by expansion, and general rules for macros.



    Essentially, any primitives which carry out assignment or typesetting are not expandable, whilst other primitives are. Thus for example def, let, etc. are all non-expandable, as are hbox, raise, setbox, whereas expandafter, the and ifx are all expandable. Note that some primitives will be expandable in the right context: numexpr is not expandable in itself, but is a valid token coming after the or number:



    edeftesta{numexpr 1+2relax}showtesta
    edeftestb{numbernumexpr 1+2relax}showtestb


    In terms of macros, we have to be clear what we mean by 'expandable'. TeX is a macro expansion language, so if we have for example



    defbaz{}
    deffoo{defbaz{bar}}


    then we can do



    edeftest{foo}showtest


    although the result is not what is likely wanted/useful. As such, when we talk about expandable macros we normally mean macros which contain only expandable primitives and which thus can be used 'safely' inside an edef or similar. With e-TeX, it' possible to ensure that macros which don't meet this criterion don't 'blow up':



    defbaz{}
    protecteddeffoo{defbaz{bar}}
    edeftest{foo}showtest


    Where does that take us? Any macro which contains:




    • Any assignment primitive

    • Any typesetting primitive

    • Any protected macro

    • Any macro which itself meets one of the three criteria above


    is not expandable. That is the majority of 'useful' macros, so as mentioned in comments, if you are not sure, assume non-expandable.





    Note that the list of non-expandable primitives is quite long, and we do have to remember about the context. For example, something like tracingcommands acts like a count register, so is non-expandable unless if follows the. Thus unless we implement a token-by-token processor, just seeing tracingcommands doesn't tell us that a macro containing this token is not expandable.



    deffoo{tracingcommands=1 }% Not expandable
    defbaz{thetracingcommands}% Expandable




    In LaTeX3/expl3, all macros are either fully expandable or are protected. Moreover, the expandable ones are all marked as such (with a star) in the documentation. The reason is that it requires some knowledge to see if something is expandable, in particular checking all macro 'dependencies'. As such, one has to work carefully to track expandable macros.







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      There are around 300 TeX90 primitives, plus a lot more added by e-TeX, XeTeX, LuaTeX, ... A list of all non-expandable (or indeed expandable) ones is going to be long, and I'd say not all that useful.
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      There are around 300 TeX90 primitives, plus a lot more added by e-TeX, XeTeX, LuaTeX, ... A list of all non-expandable (or indeed expandable) ones is going to be long, and I'd say not all that useful.
      – Joseph Wright
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    There are around 300 TeX90 primitives, plus a lot more added by e-TeX, XeTeX, LuaTeX, ... A list of all non-expandable (or indeed expandable) ones is going to be long, and I'd say not all that useful.
    – Joseph Wright
    29 mins ago




    There are around 300 TeX90 primitives, plus a lot more added by e-TeX, XeTeX, LuaTeX, ... A list of all non-expandable (or indeed expandable) ones is going to be long, and I'd say not all that useful.
    – Joseph Wright
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    Joseph has already answered, interpreting the "expandable` in your question as "fully expandable" (or what is perhaps better named as "safe in an expansion only context" see



    Advantages and disadvantages of fully expandable macros



    However to answer the question as actually asked, note that numexpr is neither a macro nor expandable.



    All macros are by definition expandable, a macro works by expanding to its replacement text. There is no list of these as it is any command defined via def or its variants edef, gdef, xdef.



    The TeXBook lists all the TeX primitivies, these are marked by a * in the index, although you need to check the description of each individually to see if they are expandable.





    In classic TeX, the expandable primitives are (I think:-)



    expandafter
    the
    number
    romannumeral
    if
    ifx
    ifcat
    ifcase
    ifnum
    ifodd
    ifdim
    ifeof
    iftrue
    iffalse
    ifhbox
    ifvbox
    ifvoid
    ifinner
    ifvnode
    ifhmode
    ifmmode
    else
    or
    fi
    input % (@@input in LaTeX)
    jobname
    meaning
    noexpand
    string
    topmark
    firstmark
    botmark




    in etex the additional expandable prinitoves are



    topmarks
    firstmarks
    botmarks
    ifdefined
    ifcsname
    iffontchar
    unless
    eTeXrevision
    unexpanded
    detokenize
    scantokens




    in addition to all the above pdftex adds the following expandable prmitives



    pdfescapestring
    pdfescapename
    pdfescapehex
    pdfstrcmp
    pdfmatch
    ifpdfabsnum
    ifpdfabsdim
    pdfuniformdeviate
    pdfnormaldeviate
    pdffilemoddate
    pdffilesize
    pdfmdffivesum
    pdffiledump
    pdfcolorstackinit
    ifincsname
    ifpdfprimitive
    pdfcreationdate
    pdfinsertht
    pdftexbanner
    pdftexrevision
    expanded % (in development versions for texlive 2019)





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      Joseph has already answered, interpreting the "expandable` in your question as "fully expandable" (or what is perhaps better named as "safe in an expansion only context" see



      Advantages and disadvantages of fully expandable macros



      However to answer the question as actually asked, note that numexpr is neither a macro nor expandable.



      All macros are by definition expandable, a macro works by expanding to its replacement text. There is no list of these as it is any command defined via def or its variants edef, gdef, xdef.



      The TeXBook lists all the TeX primitivies, these are marked by a * in the index, although you need to check the description of each individually to see if they are expandable.





      In classic TeX, the expandable primitives are (I think:-)



      expandafter
      the
      number
      romannumeral
      if
      ifx
      ifcat
      ifcase
      ifnum
      ifodd
      ifdim
      ifeof
      iftrue
      iffalse
      ifhbox
      ifvbox
      ifvoid
      ifinner
      ifvnode
      ifhmode
      ifmmode
      else
      or
      fi
      input % (@@input in LaTeX)
      jobname
      meaning
      noexpand
      string
      topmark
      firstmark
      botmark




      in etex the additional expandable prinitoves are



      topmarks
      firstmarks
      botmarks
      ifdefined
      ifcsname
      iffontchar
      unless
      eTeXrevision
      unexpanded
      detokenize
      scantokens




      in addition to all the above pdftex adds the following expandable prmitives



      pdfescapestring
      pdfescapename
      pdfescapehex
      pdfstrcmp
      pdfmatch
      ifpdfabsnum
      ifpdfabsdim
      pdfuniformdeviate
      pdfnormaldeviate
      pdffilemoddate
      pdffilesize
      pdfmdffivesum
      pdffiledump
      pdfcolorstackinit
      ifincsname
      ifpdfprimitive
      pdfcreationdate
      pdfinsertht
      pdftexbanner
      pdftexrevision
      expanded % (in development versions for texlive 2019)





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        Joseph has already answered, interpreting the "expandable` in your question as "fully expandable" (or what is perhaps better named as "safe in an expansion only context" see



        Advantages and disadvantages of fully expandable macros



        However to answer the question as actually asked, note that numexpr is neither a macro nor expandable.



        All macros are by definition expandable, a macro works by expanding to its replacement text. There is no list of these as it is any command defined via def or its variants edef, gdef, xdef.



        The TeXBook lists all the TeX primitivies, these are marked by a * in the index, although you need to check the description of each individually to see if they are expandable.





        In classic TeX, the expandable primitives are (I think:-)



        expandafter
        the
        number
        romannumeral
        if
        ifx
        ifcat
        ifcase
        ifnum
        ifodd
        ifdim
        ifeof
        iftrue
        iffalse
        ifhbox
        ifvbox
        ifvoid
        ifinner
        ifvnode
        ifhmode
        ifmmode
        else
        or
        fi
        input % (@@input in LaTeX)
        jobname
        meaning
        noexpand
        string
        topmark
        firstmark
        botmark




        in etex the additional expandable prinitoves are



        topmarks
        firstmarks
        botmarks
        ifdefined
        ifcsname
        iffontchar
        unless
        eTeXrevision
        unexpanded
        detokenize
        scantokens




        in addition to all the above pdftex adds the following expandable prmitives



        pdfescapestring
        pdfescapename
        pdfescapehex
        pdfstrcmp
        pdfmatch
        ifpdfabsnum
        ifpdfabsdim
        pdfuniformdeviate
        pdfnormaldeviate
        pdffilemoddate
        pdffilesize
        pdfmdffivesum
        pdffiledump
        pdfcolorstackinit
        ifincsname
        ifpdfprimitive
        pdfcreationdate
        pdfinsertht
        pdftexbanner
        pdftexrevision
        expanded % (in development versions for texlive 2019)





        share|improve this answer














        Joseph has already answered, interpreting the "expandable` in your question as "fully expandable" (or what is perhaps better named as "safe in an expansion only context" see



        Advantages and disadvantages of fully expandable macros



        However to answer the question as actually asked, note that numexpr is neither a macro nor expandable.



        All macros are by definition expandable, a macro works by expanding to its replacement text. There is no list of these as it is any command defined via def or its variants edef, gdef, xdef.



        The TeXBook lists all the TeX primitivies, these are marked by a * in the index, although you need to check the description of each individually to see if they are expandable.





        In classic TeX, the expandable primitives are (I think:-)



        expandafter
        the
        number
        romannumeral
        if
        ifx
        ifcat
        ifcase
        ifnum
        ifodd
        ifdim
        ifeof
        iftrue
        iffalse
        ifhbox
        ifvbox
        ifvoid
        ifinner
        ifvnode
        ifhmode
        ifmmode
        else
        or
        fi
        input % (@@input in LaTeX)
        jobname
        meaning
        noexpand
        string
        topmark
        firstmark
        botmark




        in etex the additional expandable prinitoves are



        topmarks
        firstmarks
        botmarks
        ifdefined
        ifcsname
        iffontchar
        unless
        eTeXrevision
        unexpanded
        detokenize
        scantokens




        in addition to all the above pdftex adds the following expandable prmitives



        pdfescapestring
        pdfescapename
        pdfescapehex
        pdfstrcmp
        pdfmatch
        ifpdfabsnum
        ifpdfabsdim
        pdfuniformdeviate
        pdfnormaldeviate
        pdffilemoddate
        pdffilesize
        pdfmdffivesum
        pdffiledump
        pdfcolorstackinit
        ifincsname
        ifpdfprimitive
        pdfcreationdate
        pdfinsertht
        pdftexbanner
        pdftexrevision
        expanded % (in development versions for texlive 2019)






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